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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flap View Post
    I don't know where you see an apology in there, but whatever you need to tell yourself to get by.

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    Racist begging for apologies.

    Not happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flap View Post
    And feel free to query away, if you want to go down that rabbit hole.
    I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Racist begging for apologies.

    Not happening.
    Haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flap View Post
    Et tu, Spud?
    What?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCM33 View Post
    Yup, these guys will get to know me REALLL well. Bullshit is not exactly something I tolerate.

    The point, is those places suck, and so do you. GTFO
    Seriously, WTF is the idea of going after a solid poster like Jack Flap who no one has ever had any issues with.

    Yeah, anyone who ever posted on another forum is a POS, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Seriously, WTF is the idea of going after a solid poster like Jack Flap who no one has ever had any issues with.

    Yeah, anyone who ever posted on another forum is a POS, I guess.
    It is the direction this society is going.

    Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Seriously, WTF is the idea of going after a solid poster like Jack Flap who no one has ever had any issues with.

    Yeah, anyone who ever posted on another forum is a POS, I guess.
    Thanks, man. Yeah, I still don't know what that was all about. But whatever...moving on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Seriously, WTF is the idea of going after a solid poster like Jack Flap who no one has ever had any issues with.

    Yeah, anyone who ever posted on another forum is a POS, I guess.
    Something tells me the current run of SCM33 posts will be as short as the last few have. He'll get bored sooner rather than later.
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    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flap View Post
    Thanks, man. Yeah, I still don't know what that was all about. But whatever...moving on.
    Good idea.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Seriously, WTF is the idea of going after a solid poster like Jack Flap who no one has ever had any issues with.

    Yeah, anyone who ever posted on another forum is a POS, I guess.
    This, 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCM33 View Post
    This makes no sense. When the player is 25+ years old, he is no longer considered a MLB prospect. Its not easier to scout foreign players, thats why so few of them actually produce. Much easier to scout a collegiate player, since that's what they have always done. Foreign amateur competition is impossible to scout, since its no where near the competition in the collegiate levels.

    You still didn't quote correctly and everything is bold, not sure if you said it, or someone else did.
    Youre wrong on this one. Japanese professional baseball is a lot more consistent than a high school league or even a college league to some extent as college uses metal bats. Anyone who doesn't think there is a difference hasn't played baseball at a high level. Cuban baseball is also more consistent. Japanese baseball is akin to AAA. Guys who raked in AAA and flamed out in the bigs usually do well there. Cuban baseball is a little more difficult to discern since we aren't sending AAAA castoffs there, but most scouts consider it akin to AA. If you have the chance to sign a guy who is absolutely abusing AAA and hits all the measurables (high spin rate, high exit velo, high pitching velocity etc) and they have the production, you have a guy who has a very high likelihood of making a big league impact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCM33 View Post
    This makes no sense. When the player is 25+ years old, he is no longer considered a MLB prospect. Its not easier to scout foreign players, thats why so few of them actually produce. Much easier to scout a collegiate player, since that's what they have always done. Foreign amateur competition is impossible to scout, since its no where near the competition in the collegiate levels.

    You still didn't quote correctly and everything is bold, not sure if you said it, or someone else did.
    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    Youre wrong on this one. Japanese professional baseball is a lot more consistent than a high school league or even a college league to some extent as college uses metal bats. Anyone who doesn't think there is a difference hasn't played baseball at a high level. Cuban baseball is also more consistent. Japanese baseball is akin to AAA. Guys who raked in AAA and flamed out in the bigs usually do well there. Cuban baseball is a little more difficult to discern since we aren't sending AAAA castoffs there, but most scouts consider it akin to AA. If you have the chance to sign a guy who is absolutely abusing AAA and hits all the measurables (high spin rate, high exit velo, high pitching velocity etc) and they have the production, you have a guy who has a very high likelihood of making a big league impact.
    Re-read what I wrote.

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    reading comp would help. My bad. Tired eyes I guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    Youre wrong on this one. Japanese professional baseball is a lot more consistent than a high school league or even a college league to some extent as college uses metal bats. Anyone who doesn't think there is a difference hasn't played baseball at a high level. Cuban baseball is also more consistent. Japanese baseball is akin to AAA. Guys who raked in AAA and flamed out in the bigs usually do well there. Cuban baseball is a little more difficult to discern since we aren't sending AAAA castoffs there, but most scouts consider it akin to AA. If you have the chance to sign a guy who is absolutely abusing AAA and hits all the measurables (high spin rate, high exit velo, high pitching velocity etc) and they have the production, you have a guy who has a very high likelihood of making a big league impact.
    I agree.

    Japanese League is at least on par with AAA if not higher. They've got grizzled, seasoned vets in that league. The Korean league is weaker.

    The international pool is a great loophole for richer teams to exploit. Teams should field a permanent scout in these Asian countries, especially Japan, if they aren't already.

    For those who haven't, watch Japanese baseball and watch AAA to empirically evaluate them.
    Maybe you don't need a direct scout after all.
    Last edited by yankonyankee; 12-17-2017 at 12:27 AM.

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