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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    The only reason saves matter is because fans overvalue them...
    Kind of like batting order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    He looks to be confident.

    Kelly puts himself in a little ball.
    Barnes is too soft.
    Hembree doesn't give a damn.

    Workman looks like a man out there.
    Workman deserves a shot. He has been quietly putting up some very good numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmi View Post
    Kind of like batting order.
    There's a big difference between valuing an arbitrary statistic and valuing how a team is constructed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmi View Post
    Workman deserves a shot. He has been quietly putting up some very good numbers.
    How Workman is used down the stretch is a big indication of Farrell's ability to manage his bullpen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    There's a big difference between valuing an arbitrary statistic and valuing how a team is constructed.
    You're equating how a team is constructed with batting order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    You're equating how a team is constructed with batting order?
    It is the team that gets put on the field. Maybe I should have said "lineup construction" rather than team construction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    It is the team that gets put on the field. Maybe I should have said "lineup construction" rather than team construction?
    Kimmi was talking about batting order, as in 'Mookie should not be hitting leadoff!' I'm not sure where the confusion is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Kimmi was talking about batting order, as in 'Mookie should not be hitting leadoff!' I'm not sure where the confusion is.
    I know what batting order is. Doesn't the manager have a say in the batting order of the team that gets put on the field? Isn't that something that fans can have a say about for various reasons? She's definitely stretching logic by saying caring about saves is the same as caring about batting order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fxkatt View Post
    I've got to think we've seen the worst of Reed. He had 19 saves, 2.57 ERA, 48 k to 6 bb. with the Mets.

    I know the AL is tougher, but I'm thinking his best is yet to come.
    i hope your right. i fear he can't handle Boston.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I know what batting order is. Doesn't the manager have a say in the batting order of the team that gets put on the field? Isn't that something that fans can have a say about for various reasons? She's definitely stretching logic by saying caring about saves is the same as caring about batting order.
    Fans can have a say in and care about anything they want, including saves.

    All I'm saying is that fans tend to overvalue the save stat, as they overvalue batting order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmi View Post
    Fans can have a say in and care about anything they want, including saves.

    All I'm saying is that fans tend to overvalue the save stat, as they overvalue batting order.
    It's "Argue with Kimmi Day" and you didn't tell me?
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    It's only difficult for other people.

    It works the same way for stupid."

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    How many fans really care about saves though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoxnCycles View Post
    It's "Argue with Kimmi Day" and you didn't tell me?
    LOL Apparently, you didn't get the memo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoxnCycles View Post
    It's "Argue with Kimmi Day" and you didn't tell me?
    Kimmi has no problem arguing with anyone else. Don't see what the big deal is here. I value Kimmi's opinion as much as anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    How many fans really care about saves though?
    Quite a few.

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