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[Kimmi]

the results would have been the same....a top 3 Farm turned into a #30 Farm. decimated would still be the word. the only difference is that when talking about DD no one would be able to say "at least he got us a parade". unless you believe we get one in 2018 without beni (see: skinny beni "the catch"), devers, and erod......

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[moonslav59]

I think you have to cut the Hall of Famers a little slack. Boggs is in Cooperstown. Betts is not. Betts might be one day, but I wouldn’t say he has already earned it. As in, if Mookie retired today, would he get into Cooperstown?

In fact, since we are only talking about players from the Sox farm and no one said they had to actually play for the Sox, is Betts better than Bagwell was?

Yes, he is.

IMO, Betts is better than Boggs, too.

[Kimmi]

Not sure I get your point.

Let me ask this: when DD traded Moncada and Kopech for Sale, would you call that an act of destruction?

FTR, I was not on board with the Sale trade at the time that it happened. I was thrilled to get Sale of course, but opposed to the 'act of destruction' to our farm. I thought it was overkill.

[Kimmi]

there was zero reason to give sale the extension prior to seasons end. DD is a buffoon.

I happen to disagree with this. I don't like the number of years, but I fully understand extending Sale when he did.

[moonslav59]

The farm was decimated either way. When a farm goes from top 3 to bottom 3 in a matter of 2 years, that is decimation. That's what I'm basing my opinion on.

I think the word is a little too extreme, but I'm okay with using the word.

To me, decimated means totally stripped of any value. Keeping Devers, Beni, ERod and DHern, among others is not total. The definition includes "removing a large percentage of...", so maybe it is appropriate.

[Kimmi]

Has anyone considered the possibility that the reason Sale signed the contract in the first place is he knew or strongly suspected he wasn’t 100%? And that maybe if he was 100%, he would never have signed that deal?

I do not believe this about Sale.

[Kimmi]

Yes, he is.

IMO, Betts is better than Boggs, too.

Just say no to a 8+ year contract to Betts. I don't care how good he is.

[moonslav59]

Just say no to a 8+ year contract to Betts. I don't care how good he is.

Well, if he's as good as Boggs, he'd be worth it. If he's like Rice, who petered out after 33-34, he wouldn't be.

OPS by Boggs & Rice at these ages
Betts next contract:
Boggs/Rice
age 28 year 1 .939 (3rd best ever)/.755
age 29 year 2 1.049 (best ever)/.868
age 30 year 3 .965 (2nd best ever)/.911
age 31 year 4 .879/.791
age 32 year 5 .804/.836
age 33 year 6 .881/.874
age 34 year 7 .711/.766
age 35 year 8 .740/.736

age 36 year 9 .922/.621
age 37 year 10 .834/out of baseball

[cp176]

A decimated farm goes from 3 to 30 whatever and then back down to 20 whatever in the wink of an eye. Someone has got some splainin to do.

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[Slasher9]

A decimated farm goes from 3 to 30 whatever and then back down to 20 whatever in the wink of an eye. Someone has got some splainin to do.

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i dont know where the "20 whatever" started. i have used bleacher report only and as of their latest rankings (Post 2019 trade deadline) the Red Sox are ranked #30. has something happened between the deadline and end of season to move them up a few spots? perhaps. reality is a #20 Farm is probably closer to #30 then to #15. perhaps our move up from #30 coincided exactly with the firing of DD (aka "Farm Destroyer") as the people doing the rankings realized the remaining scraps in our Farm are safe from being dealt for the time being......

[Bellhorn04]

Post of the day!

No fair voting 3 day old posts as Post of the Day.

[Bellhorn04]

i dont know where the "20 whatever" started. i have used bleacher report only and as of their latest rankings (Post 2019 trade deadline) the Red Sox are ranked #30. has something happened between the deadline and end of season to move them up a few spots? perhaps. reality is a #20 Farm is probably closer to #30 then to #15. perhaps our move up from #30 coincided exactly with the firing of DD (aka "Farm Destroyer") as the people doing the rankings realized the remaining scraps in our Farm are safe from being dealt for the time being......

Baseball America moved us to #22 on their end of season rankings.

[cp176]

Baseball America moved us to #22 on their end of season rankings.

So we go from top 3 to 30 and back to 22 in what time span based on what criteria? I think that these rankings are ludicrous as well as meaningless.

[harmony]

So we go from top 3 to 30 and back to 22 in what time span based on what criteria? I think that these rankings are ludicrous as well as meaningless.

The prospect rankings apparently were meaningful on this forum back when the Red Sox were highly ranked.

[Bellhorn04]

The prospect rankings apparently were meaningful on this forum back when the Red Sox were highly ranked.

You may have noticed that some posters on this forum find the fact that our rankings sank to the bottom meaningful too. Maybe you've seen the word 'decimated' a time or too?