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    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    In which case, there is no past performance.
    He never pitched before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    He never pitched before?
    He never ran the bases before.
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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

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    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    He never ran the bases before.
    He didn't that time either. He never got a chance.

    He ran a base.

    (BTW, he probably ran down to 1B once or twice when batting at an NL park.)
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    He didn't that time either. He never got a chance.

    He ran a base.

    (BTW, he probably ran down to 1B once or twice when batting at an NL park.)
    He did have 6 PAs with no hits, 3 k's and a sac bunt. He never got to !B.
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    He did have 6 PAs with no hits, 3 k's and a sac bunt. He never got to !B.
    Well, he may have run to 1B on a ground out or on the sac bunt.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Well, he may have run to 1B on a ground out or on the sac bunt.
    I checked the videos. He peeled off to the dugout.
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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    I checked the videos. He peeled off to the dugout.
    But, but, but...

    What about Little League?
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    But, but, but...

    What about Little League?
    He said that the last time that he ran the bases was High School.
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    He said that the last time that he ran the bases was High School.
    There you go!

    A real expert at running the bases!
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Even if that were true all the time, those numbers typically represent history, and said history was achieved by humans, complete with faults and foibles.

    I would say that the stats alone account for the human element, and probably do so to a greater degree than any of us are capable...
    Are you saying that momentum, clutch, and choke exist and they show up in the stats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Even if that were true all the time, those numbers typically represent history, and said history was achieved by humans, complete with faults and foibles.

    I would say that the stats alone account for the human element, and probably do so to a greater degree than any of us are capable...
    It seems like a small difference, but you mean "incorporate the human element" right? (rather than 'account for' it)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S5Dewey View Post
    Are you saying that momentum, clutch, and choke exist and they show up in the stats?
    Notin doesn’t believe in those things. He thinks every MLB player tries their hardest (ie: gives 100% laser focus) on every pitch of every game....
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    Quote Originally Posted by S5Dewey View Post
    Are you saying that momentum, clutch, and choke exist and they show up in the stats?
    If they show up anywhere, it’s in the stats. Hitting streaks, recent samples, high leverage.

    The real illusion is fans saying they see these things. Everyone remembers the big hits, but most forget the outs in the same situation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    Notin doesn’t believe in those things. He thinks every MLB player tries their hardest (ie: gives 100% laser focus) on every pitch of every game....
    I think players think they do that...but in reality they don't.

    At the same time I don't think any player ever said, "I think I'll just 'mail it in' on this AB". But for some players when they find themselves in a pressure situation they feel the tingle...the goose bumps of knowing THIS is where they want to be... and they can dig down and find a bit more focus than they usually bring. That's clutch.

    Now.. are they always successful? No. Because baseball is such a random game that nothing is "ALWAYS". But these players are able to hit, field, pitch, or throw just a bit better than they usually do in those situations. It's reflected in their BA, etc. but since it's not identified as a pressure situation some folks think it doesn't exist.
    Last edited by S5Dewey; 10-19-2019 at 08:57 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    If they show up anywhere, it’s in the stats. Hitting streaks, recent samples, high leverage.

    The real illusion is fans saying they see these things. Everyone remembers the big hits, but most forget the outs in the same situation...
    Then we agree on this. Clutch does exist and it shows itself in the stats.

    My opinion is that a clutch player who is normally a .290 hitter will pick up a few clutch hits throughout the season to raise his average to .310. (That's only 10 hits over a season based on 500 AB's). In the eyes of the statistician he's then a good hitter @ .310 rather than a slightly better than average hitter @ .290. And it's due to his being clutch.
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