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    Sox Managers

    Who would be on your top 5 best and top 5 worst lists?
    Priorities:
    1. Yankees lose
    2. Red Sox win

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    So shut up because you have no idea on what you say on anything as evidence of some of your ridiculous posts.

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    Best:

    1. Tito
    2. Dick Williams
    3. Bill Carrigan
    4. Jimmy Collins
    5. jimmy Williams
    (McNamara/Kennedy/Cronin)

    Worst (My lifetime)
    1. Joe Kerrigan (He once wanted Manny to change his swing.)
    2. Bobby V.
    3. Butch Hobson
    4. D Johnson (Hated Bill Lee- I mean, come on!)
    5. Joe Morgan
    (John Farrell)


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    I can only do my lifetime:

    Best to Worst:
    Tito
    Alex Cora
    Jimmy Williams
    John Farrell
    Joe Morgan
    Grady Little
    McNamara
    Zimmer
    Houk
    Kennedy
    Hobson
    Kerrigan
    Bobby V
    Pesky
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I can only do my lifetime:

    Best to Worst:
    Tito
    Alex Cora
    Jimmy Williams
    John Farrell
    Joe Morgan
    Grady Little
    McNamara
    Zimmer
    Houk
    Kennedy
    Hobson
    Kerrigan
    Bobby V
    Pesky
    If you were here for Pesky, then what about Johnson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    If you were here for Pesky, then what about Johnson?
    I was born after the 76 season. Pesky managed in 80.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I was born after the 76 season. Pesky managed in 80.
    I forgot about the 5 games he managed that year. I was thinking of the 60's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I can only do my lifetime:

    Best to Worst:
    Tito
    Alex Cora
    Jimmy Williams
    John Farrell
    Joe Morgan
    Grady Little
    McNamara
    Zimmer
    Houk
    Kennedy
    Hobson
    Kerrigan
    Bobby V
    Pesky
    Like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I forgot about the 5 games he managed that year. I was thinking of the 60's.
    Part of my determination is based on how he coached the PawSox in 90 when my family had season tickets. He was also overrated as a player (the same JAWS as John Valentin).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Like it.
    Cora is going to win one WS before the cliff happens. Then as the team is plummeting off the cliff, he's going to sprout wings like an eagle and help the team soar to another one. I just can't put him above Tito yet, because he'd need to win at least 4 WS titles and he'd probably only win 3. The 2004 title is basically double credit for Tito.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I can only do my lifetime:

    Best to Worst:
    Tito
    Alex Cora
    Jimmy Williams
    John Farrell
    Joe Morgan
    Grady Little
    McNamara
    Zimmer
    Houk
    Kennedy
    Hobson
    Kerrigan
    Bobby V
    Pesky
    This to me is more credible than moonslav's list. To be perfectly honest, even though I was a solid Sox fan as early as 1949, I was mostly oblivious of the managers because I was literally unable to watch or listen to Red Sox games--except for the 1953 and 1954 seasons when I lived in western Massachusetts--until 2003 or 2004 when I could get them on satellite TV.

    But like almost every Sox fan, I know about the 86 year drought which John Henry ended. Tito did a good job, but he also had awfully good hitting anchored by Manny and Papi for both WS titles and good enough pitching. Ditto for Farrell in 2013 but without Manny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxbialystock View Post
    This to me is more credible than moonslav's list.
    Aren't all of my posts more credible than his?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Best:

    1. Tito
    2. Dick Williams
    3. Bill Carrigan
    4. Jimmy Collins
    5. jimmy Williams
    (McNamara/Kennedy/Cronin)

    Worst (My lifetime)
    1. Joe Kerrigan (He once wanted Manny to change his swing.)
    2. Bobby V.
    3. Butch Hobson
    4. D Johnson (Hated Bill Lee- I mean, come on!)
    5. Joe Morgan
    (John Farrell)

    Not going to argue Tito at the top. Good list. Dick Williams is a must ahead of all others though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Best:

    1. Tito
    2. Dick Williams
    3. Bill Carrigan
    4. Jimmy Collins
    5. jimmy Williams
    (McNamara/Kennedy/Cronin)

    Worst (My lifetime)
    1. Joe Kerrigan (He once wanted Manny to change his swing.)
    2. Bobby V.
    3. Butch Hobson
    4. D Johnson (Hated Bill Lee- I mean, come on!)
    5. Joe Morgan
    (John Farrell)

    Did you mean Don Zimmer hated Bill Lee?

    (I don't know, maybe Johnson had problems with him too.)

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    Johnson was named 1975’s Major League Manager of the Year by The Sporting News. And once again he was given the St. Louis Brownie of the Year Award by those who still kept the faith. Sportswriters covering the World Series noted that Johnson had become more bitter, was livid regarding the Armbrister incident, and was observed as becoming “surly and quick-tempered in his relations with the World Series press.” Former Red Sox manager Dick Williams empathized with Johnson, noting the pressure, and called him an “intense, inward” but “outstanding” person who simply hadn’t adjusted as well to dealing with the press as Williams himself had.7 Red Sox pitcher Bill Lee had his criticisms, expressed in the immediate aftermath of the World Series: “Johnson has been falling out of trees all summer and landing on his feet.”8
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    Years later, Bill Lee said "He was easygoing. We played well under him. He was a very knowledgeable baseball guy. He handled players well. He was one of my all-time favorites."
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