I agree. I'd put Price's chances of opting out at less than 1%.Originally Posted by BillyWilliams
I'm not sure about JD. He'll be 2 years older and looking more and more like a DH/4th OF'er type.
I also think we can probably afford to give JD a bump is salary to keep him here, if we choose to do so.
Price is not opting out unless he has a huge postseason, no way he gets a contract similar to the one he has in the open market
He could go 5-0 0.00 and he ain't opting out.
The only way he opts out is if he really wants to leave. But even then, his agent (whom he did hire for career advice) would strongly recommend against it....
He won't need his agent to know to stay.
Didn't Price recently said he won't be opting out?
Yes, he did. He said he came to Boston to be on a winning team, so he will not be going to another team with less of a chance of winning.
Edit: The hope of him opting out was ridiculously illogical. If he was playing well enough for him to opt out, it meant that he was playing for us at or below market value.
Last edited by a700hitter; 09-20-2018 at 06:23 PM.
The King of TalkSox has Spoken.
Yes, but it's what GMs want to hear. It could be posturing, but I think he was sincere.
It rings of truth.
Here's a look at the AL Playoff SP'ers (fWAR used):
(Ranked among only 5 playoff team pitchers. In theory, 5 teams x 5 SP'er makes the sample size 25 pitchers)
BOS
1. Sale 6.2
12. Price 2.9
15. Porcello 2.6
17. ERod 2.2
22. Eovaldi 1.6
HOU
2. Verlander 6.0
4. G Cole 5.7
9. Keuchel 3.5
11. Morton 2.9
16.. McCullers 2.3 (to the pen)
CLE
3. Bauer 6.0 (Injured)
6. Kluber 4.9
7. Carrasco 4.9
8. Clevinger 4.3
14. Bieber 2.6
NYY
5. Severino 5.5
10. Happ 3.0
13. Tanaka 2.7
18. Lynn 2.5
19. Sabathia 2.1
23. Gray 1.6
OAK
20. Cahil 1.9
21. Manaea 1.8(injured)
24. Anderson 1.0
25. Montas 0.9
26. Jackson 0.8
I see and appreciate what you're doing there but it raises a point. Those WARs are against a cross-section of hitters, essentially an average of all teams and hitters. It may not be realistic to think that, for example, Justin Verlander will perform as well against Mookie, JDM, & Co. as they do against the average teams.
I like our offense better than anyone else's (except maybe the Y's in YS) so I'm optimistic.
Another reason I'm optimistic is because of all the late inning scoring the Sox have done. It just may be that the Sox (like everyone else) will have trouble with other team's top pitchers but they can clean up against their bullpens. IMO it will be incumbent on our starters not to be shutdown guys but rather to keep the team in the game. The offense will take care of the rest later in the game. But shutdown is good too.
It's a mere moment in a man's life between the All-Star game and the Old Timer's game.
-Vin Scully
Houston really hits Lefties good, something to think about going forward.
Price still has 4 years on an insane contract of over $30M year. In the first three years (almost) of his contract, he has been worth about 1/2 of that $30M+/year.
So how did the subject of his opting out even come up?
To me that would be like Pablo and HanRam wiring DD and asking him to please discontinue those monthly salary checks because they feel they haven't earned them.
Well, our pitchers never had to face our hitters, so maybe their WAR would be worse, if they did.I see and appreciate what you're doing there but it raises a point. Those WARs are against a cross-section of hitters, essentially an average of all teams and hitters. It may not be realistic to think that, for example, Justin Verlander will perform as well against Mookie, JDM, & Co. as they do against the average teams.
I like our offense better than anyone else's (except maybe the Y's in YS) so I'm optimistic.
Another reason I'm optimistic is because of all the late inning scoring the Sox have done. It just may be that the Sox (like everyone else) will have trouble with other team's top pitchers but they can clean up against their bullpens. IMO it will be incumbent on our starters not to be shutdown guys but rather to keep the team in the game. The offense will take care of the rest later in the game. But shutdown is good too.
I like our top 3-4 starters as much as anyone else's.
I like our line-up more than anyone else's.
I like our defense more than any other AL playoff team's.
We are second in SBs.
I like our chances more than anyone else's to win it all, but those chances are still well below 50%.
Right - I love this team. But it's baseball - and no baseball team is a good bet vs the field.
Ever.
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