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Thread: Angel Hernandez Factor?

  1. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    I'm trying to get some momentum for my umpire accountability plan here...
    I'm on board!
    “The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.” -Ralph Waldo Emerson

    "When you're dead, you don't know you're dead.
    It's only difficult for other people.

    It works the same way for stupid."

  2. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Who was the umpire who called Bellhorn's home run in game 6 of the 2004 ALCS as a double? Was it also Angel Hernandez?
    That was actually Jim Joyce
    Quote Originally Posted by YANKEESRULE View Post
    Yea got hand it to the Sox, they just could not go queitly into the night. Well, they are just post-poning the inevitable.
    - From the 2004 ALCS Game 4 Gamethread. A reminder that no game is over until the final out is recorded, and things will always get better. Misspellings unchanged as a reminder that Yankees fans are just terrible.

  3. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Youk Of The Nation View Post
    That was actually Jim Joyce
    Another one of the good guys.

    Seriously, every Sox fan owes a bit of a debt to that umpiring crew IMHO

  4. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Youk Of The Nation View Post
    That was actually Jim Joyce

    Joyce is definitely not one who should have a piranha stuffed down his pants...

  5. #80
    Last night Benintendi took a third strike that was off the plate. Caused a flap and Cora got himself ejected. A robo-ump would have got that call right for ball 4.

  6. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by oldtimer View Post
    Last night Benintendi took a third strike that was off the plate. Caused a flap and Cora got himself ejected. A robo-ump would have got that call right for ball 4.
    But how long until the robot umps turn on you?

    You do realize both The Terminator and The Matrix both started their legends with robot umpires, right?

  7. #82
    Getting back to Hernandez, there is a school of thought that may have some validity that Hernandez is umpiring in the playoffs this year because he's filed a discrimination suit against MLB, saying that he's being overlooked because 1) Joe Torre doesn't like him, and 2) he's a minority.

    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...ment-joe-torre
    It's a mere moment in a man's life between the All-Star game and the Old Timer's game.
    -Vin Scully

  8. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    But how long until the robot umps turn on you?

    You do realize both The Terminator and The Matrix both started their legends with robot umpires, right?
    A robot ump wouldn't have ejected Cora. He ( it ) would have killed Cora.

  9. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I think it's possible that the umps are doing the best they can. Some of these calls are incredibly hard to make with the naked eye. On the force play, you have to be able to see two things at once-the ball hitting the glove and the foot hitting the bag. And both are moving pretty fast. I'm not sure it's humanly possible, frankly.
    You may be right that the umps are doing the best they can. I have never umpired a game, so I can't say that they could do any better.

    That said, I do believe the lack of accountability is a problem.

  10. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmi View Post
    You may be right that the umps are doing the best they can. I have never umpired a game, so I can't say that they could do any better.

    That said, I do believe the lack of accountability is a problem.
    Humans are humans. Even the best umps make too many mistakes- accountability or not. No ump could have called that strike that was thrown when Vaz stood up and blocked the view.

    Robo umps for balls and strikes needs to begin in 2019.

  11. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Humans are humans. Even the best umps make too many mistakes- accountability or not. No ump could have called that strike that was thrown when Vaz stood up and blocked the view.

    Robo umps for balls and strikes needs to begin in 2019.
    I have no problem with that type of missed call. It happens.

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