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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    I was annoyed they did not end the tied All Star game this way. Much more fun than making it matter, which was the stupidest decision by a HOF Commissioner in the history of organized sports in the USA...
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    Sox will use robots to fight Covid at Fenway:


    Better use of robots: k zone or melee vs COVID?

    C'mon, man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
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    Sox will use robots to fight Covid at Fenway:


    Better use of robots: k zone or melee vs COVID?

    C'mon, man!
    what will the robots do..., vaccinate the fans?
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

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    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    MLB's attempts to crack down on foreign substances are outlined in a memo obtained by ESPN. Among the plans:

    - Increased monitoring by compliance officers
    - Inspections of baseballs taken out of play that will use a third-party lab to check for substances
    - Spin-rate analysis

    Compliance officers will monitor dugouts, clubhouses, tunnels, batting cages and bullpens. They will take a random sample of balls, and the lab will search not just for the substances themselves but the type being utilized. Statcast data will compare spin rate to career norms.

    The memo, first reported by @Joelsherman1, says: “Players are subject to discipline by the Commissioner’s Office for violating the Official Baseball Rules regardless of whether evidence of the violation has been discovered during or following a game.”


    How about cracking down on umps that can't call strikes? How about cracking down on a broken tv blackout system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    @JeffPassan
    MLB's attempts to crack down on foreign substances are outlined in a memo obtained by ESPN. Among the plans:

    - Increased monitoring by compliance officers
    - Inspections of baseballs taken out of play that will use a third-party lab to check for substances
    - Spin-rate analysis

    Compliance officers will monitor dugouts, clubhouses, tunnels, batting cages and bullpens. They will take a random sample of balls, and the lab will search not just for the substances themselves but the type being utilized. Statcast data will compare spin rate to career norms.

    The memo, first reported by @Joelsherman1, says: “Players are subject to discipline by the Commissioner’s Office for violating the Official Baseball Rules regardless of whether evidence of the violation has been discovered during or following a game.”


    How about cracking down on umps that can't call strikes? How about cracking down on a broken tv blackout system?
    The antediluvian blackout system needs to go. Just scrap it and actually broadcast your product without restrictions...

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    https://lawandcrime.com/sports/mlb-u...o-promote-him/

    Umpire Angel Hernandez struck out in his lawsuit alleging that his Cuban descent stood made the league pass him over several times for crew chief in favor of his white colleagues. Rattling off performance concerns that made the umpire the bane of ex-New York Yankees manager Joe Torre, a federal judge in the Empire State ruled on Wednesday that no reasonable jury could find racial discrimination at the heart of these snubs.

    “The court is mindful of the reality of unconscious bias and of the ‘built-in headwinds’ that can ‘freeze out protected groups from job opportunities and advancement,'” District Judge J. Paul Oetken wrote in a 26-page opinion. “With respect to Hernandez’s non-promotion claims in this case, however, there is insufficient evidence to show a triable issue on either a disparate treatment or disparate impact theory.”

    Widely described as the worst umpire in the game, Hernandez’s reputation was put to the test by Boston University, whose researchers found his colleague Joe West made more bad calls then he did. But Hernadez still had a “high error rate,” roughly “averaging 19 incorrect calls a game, or 2.2 per inning,” according to the university.

    In 2017, Hernandez sued Major League Baseball in a lawsuit alleging discrimination and a lack of diversity, citing a study from five years earlier finding that only seven-percent of his peers belonged to racial or ethnic minorities.

    Hernandez complained that the last time he was assigned to the World Series was 2005, four years after then-Yankees manager Torres publicly criticized one of his calls. Torre became the league’s baseball executive in 2011 and chief baseball officer in 2015, keeping the latter position until December 2019.

    Judge Oetken added that the evidence showed that Torre based his decisions on performance.

    “The evidence shows beyond genuine dispute that an umpire’s leadership and situation management carried the day in MLB’s promotion decisions,” Oetken wrote. “Torre testified that the candidates he appointed to crew chief instead of Hernandez ‘have not demonstrated the same pattern of issues and to the same extent that have manifested with Hernandez over the years.’ […] And indeed, the promoted umpires have evaluations with comments that lend support to Torre’s statement.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    https://lawandcrime.com/sports/mlb-u...o-promote-him/

    Umpire Angel Hernandez struck out in his lawsuit alleging that his Cuban descent stood made the league pass him over several times for crew chief in favor of his white colleagues. Rattling off performance concerns that made the umpire the bane of ex-New York Yankees manager Joe Torre, a federal judge in the Empire State ruled on Wednesday that no reasonable jury could find racial discrimination at the heart of these snubs.

    “The court is mindful of the reality of unconscious bias and of the ‘built-in headwinds’ that can ‘freeze out protected groups from job opportunities and advancement,'” District Judge J. Paul Oetken wrote in a 26-page opinion. “With respect to Hernandez’s non-promotion claims in this case, however, there is insufficient evidence to show a triable issue on either a disparate treatment or disparate impact theory.”

    Widely described as the worst umpire in the game, Hernandez’s reputation was put to the test by Boston University, whose researchers found his colleague Joe West made more bad calls then he did. But Hernadez still had a “high error rate,” roughly “averaging 19 incorrect calls a game, or 2.2 per inning,” according to the university.

    In 2017, Hernandez sued Major League Baseball in a lawsuit alleging discrimination and a lack of diversity, citing a study from five years earlier finding that only seven-percent of his peers belonged to racial or ethnic minorities.

    Hernandez complained that the last time he was assigned to the World Series was 2005, four years after then-Yankees manager Torres publicly criticized one of his calls. Torre became the league’s baseball executive in 2011 and chief baseball officer in 2015, keeping the latter position until December 2019.

    Judge Oetken added that the evidence showed that Torre based his decisions on performance.

    “The evidence shows beyond genuine dispute that an umpire’s leadership and situation management carried the day in MLB’s promotion decisions,” Oetken wrote. “Torre testified that the candidates he appointed to crew chief instead of Hernandez ‘have not demonstrated the same pattern of issues and to the same extent that have manifested with Hernandez over the years.’ […] And indeed, the promoted umpires have evaluations with comments that lend support to Torre’s statement.”
    You can't play the race card if you simply suck at your job
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    You can't play the race card if you simply suck at your job
    Well, all umps suck, so he's even with the honkies.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Well, all umps suck, so he's even with the honkies.
    And no matter what anyone thinks of Joe West, at least he made the right calls -- maybe the most important overturned calls -- in recent Red Sox history: Bellhorn's homer, ARod's slap, Altuve's fly ball. Imagine if those calls went the other way (like they always used to)... there would probably be no talksox, and possibly more posters would either be in institutions, radicalized, homeless or six feet under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    And no matter what anyone thinks of Joe West, at least he made the right calls -- maybe the most important overturned calls -- in recent Red Sox history: Bellhorn's homer, ARod's slap, Altuve's fly ball. Imagine if those calls went the other way (like they always used to)... there would probably be no talksox, and possibly more posters would either be in institutions, radicalized, homeless or six feet under.
    The naked-eye reversals on Bellhorn's homer and ARod's slap were incredible. To have two of them in one game, and in a hostile Yankee Stadium, were a miracle. I remember Joe Buck saying after the ARod call "And they get it right again!"

    I'll never say a bad word about that umpiring crew.
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    You guys are dating yourselves once again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    You guys are dating yourselves once again...
    2004 wasn't all that long ago. I'm sure most of us could blow up a post about Jose Offerman so be glad we are speaking only of the good times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    You guys are dating yourselves once again...
    Hey, I still remember listening on the radio to the crucial 1972 game against the Tigers when Luis Aparicio fell down rounding third base...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Hey, I still remember listening on the radio to the crucial 1972 game against the Tigers when Luis Aparicio fell down rounding third base...
    That was the strike year when teams played uneven amounts of games, and the Sox lost the division by 1/2 game!

    Was that the only time in any major sport where a team lost by 1/2 a game?
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    That was the strike year when teams played uneven amounts of games, and the Sox lost the division by 1/2 game!

    Was that the only time in any major sport where a team lost by 1/2 a game?
    I don't know. But going into that series, whichever team won 2 of 3 would win the division. The Tigers won the first two to clinch. The Red Sox won the meaningless last game.

    It was an exciting season though.
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