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Mo is a lock.
Juan Pierre? That's a joke, right? A slaphitter with 600 SBs and nothing else.
Also, another joke is Andruw Jones as a holdover. OK, he got a lot of gold gloves, but <2,000 hits, <500 HRs, .254 career hitter. If he hadn't fallen off a cliff in his last few seasons, maybe....
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Originally Posted by joeycaps
Also, they need to up the percentage of vote required to stay on the ballot. I'd say 20% minimum.
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In the 'can you believe it' department, it's already the 7th year on the ballet for Bonds and Clemens.
6th year for Schilling and Mussina.
10th year for Edgar Martinez.
I would vote for Halladay, Rivera, and Schilling.
I wouldn't vote for the PED guys: Pettitte, Bonds, Clemons, Manny.
The guys I might vote for but would require more research & thought: E.Martinez, Mussina, McGriff, Wagner.
Mo & Edgar.
The others can wait.
Kevin Youkilis, Rick Ankiel and Jason Bay are eligible for the Hall of Fame? Ummm... Alright lol. Good luck to them.
Mussina has a great case, as does Edgar. Halladay and Mo are shoe in's IMO. Clemens and Bonds will get closer. Schilling will get close too
Hal sucks
With Schilling I think the personal dislike factor is working against him big time. Which is dead wrong of course.
Helton is the interesting one for me. He was always a favorite of mine but I think Coors is going to work against him in the voting, as is the fact that while he played so many seasons, he never made it to either 500HR or 3000H. I think he's going to get in eventually but it's probably going to take five or six years of voting.
Bay, Ankiel, Lilly, Pierre, Polanco, Hafner, Garland, Garcia, Oliver, Oswalt, Wells, Young, and, as much as I hate saying it, obvious though it is, Youkilis, should all be laughed off of the ballot on their first go-around.
It's long past time for Martinez to go into the HOF.
Rivera is an obvious first-ballot choice.
McGriff, Jones, Rolen, Wagner, and Walker should have been gone by now.
PEDs happened and everyone needs to move on from that shit. All the PED guys had great careers even before their use. It's time for Manny, Clemens, and Bonds to go in.
Sosa and Sheffield, no, because Sheffield wasn't that great and wasn't good for long enough, and Sosa was mediocre outside of hitting HRs, same as McGwire.
Tejada? I don't really have an opinion there.
Halladay and Schilling will be in eventually. I think Halladay's sudden death last year will probably push his induction up a year or two from where it would have been normally. I don't like Schilling as a person, but I don't need to. There are plenty of athletes I can't stand. Youk was a gigantic douchebag. Papelbon was the white-trashiest of white-trash assholes in the history of the world but while he wore the Sox uniform I loved that beady-eyed son of a bitch. He should go in, but I think it'll be a couple years because he wasn't overwhelmingly great a la Johnson or Maddux or Smoltz or Glavine.
Andy Pettitte can eat a bag of dicks, which would technically cannibalism as he's a gigantic bag of dicks. I don't give a shit about HGH, he may have pitched for a long time but at best he was maybe the sixth or seventh best pitcher in any given season he pitched in. He can fuck right the fuck off and buy a ticket to the HOF like the rest of us. Or better yet, he can ride in on Clemens' coattails.
Finally, Derek Lowe: No. Sorry dude, thanks for 2004 but no way are you getting in.
- From the 2004 ALCS Game 4 Gamethread. A reminder that no game is over until the final out is recorded, and things will always get better. Misspellings unchanged as a reminder that Yankees fans are just terrible.
The PED thing is so overblown. In many cases, it wasn’t even against the rules. It does really need to be ignored for a lot of these players...
If you want the voters to ignore the PED stuff, you have to remove the sportsmanship clause from the ballot instructions. For reasons that are pretty self-explanatory, people are going to believe that the PED guys demonstrated poor sportsmanship and that is pushing down their vote totals.
I might support Clemons, Bonds in the HOF if, and only if, they come forward and improve our knowledge of PED effects on numbers. We would need to know the extent of their PED usage, the years they started juicing, etc., and they would need to document such information to prove they aren't lying. It would be so useful for MLB to have this information. But Bonds and Clemons don't care about the well-being of MLB or advancing public knowledge of PED use--they only care about themselves and so who really cares if baseball keeps them out. They deserve to be out. They made their own bed, they can now sleep in it.
IMO, the entire voting process for the HOF is whack.
On a related note, IMO if there has to be a debate about whether a person belongs in the HOF or not, then he shouldn't get in.
The HOF should be limited to those players who are no brainers or shoe ins.
In what sense?
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I'm a big fan of Ankiel, but I seriously question why the committee decided to put him and Darren Oliver on the ballot. Their stats aren't even close to HOF. Gotta be kidding me with this bullshit.
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Ted Lilly???
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