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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    It really could be, if they just lost $200M on a bad investment, Having $20M left vs 0 is huge.
    But Kimmi is right that the odds are that if someone has such bad judgment as to throw away 200 mill, they're probably going to throw away 220 mill if they had it.
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    As much of a commitment as these massive contracts are, it might be worth noting that only 12 contracts in MLB history have exceeded $200mill, and four of those players (Stanton, ARod, Cano, Prince Fielder) were actually traded during these mega deals.

    So historically any team signing Machado or Harper has a 1 in 3 chance of pawning that deal off on someone else at some point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    As much of a commitment as these massive contracts are, it might be worth noting that only 12 contracts in MLB history have exceeded $200mill, and four of those players (Stanton, ARod, Cano, Prince Fielder) were actually traded during these mega deals.
    ...and in most situations it's because the team that signed them to the big contract couldn't find anyone else to take it on - so they were stuck with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    As much of a commitment as these massive contracts are, it might be worth noting that only 12 contracts in MLB history have exceeded $200mill, and four of those players (Stanton, ARod, Cano, Prince Fielder) were actually traded during these mega deals.

    So historically any team signing Machado or Harper has a 1 in 3 chance of pawning that deal off on someone else at some point...
    Perhaps worth noting is that the Stanton contract was actually designed by Loria to be traded.
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    Betts just agreed to a 20M contract for 2019

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    $20 mil for second trip through arb. Wowza

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    $20 mil for second trip through arb. Wowza
    Being MVP will do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S5Dewey View Post
    ...and in most situations it's because the team that signed them to the big contract couldn't find anyone else to take it on - so they were stuck with them.

    Actually most of them are still active and could be traded yet. I don’t expect Pujols or Cabrera to move, with the others? It’s still possible.

    In fact, Alex Rodriguez is the only player to sign a $200mill+ contract and finish it with the same team...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Actually most of them are still active and could be traded yet. I don’t expect Pujols or Cabrera to move, with the others? It’s still possible.

    In fact, Alex Rodriguez is the only player to sign a $200mill+ contract and finish it with the same team...
    With Jeter just under the wire at a mere 189 mill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    But Kimmi is right that the odds are that if someone has such bad judgment as to throw away 200 mill, they're probably going to throw away 220 mill if they had it.
    Sure seems to work that way, but how many stories are told, if true,of players losing a ton but still have $20M remaining. It's not a story, so it is never told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Perhaps worth noting is that the Stanton contract was actually designed by Loria to be traded.
    By backloading it so whoever trades for him pays the bulk of the deal? Not exactly prime marketing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    By backloading it so whoever trades for him pays the bulk of the deal? Not exactly prime marketing...
    Not in some senses, but the deal did allow them to keep him another year or two, and they did still get some return in trade had they had a competent GM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    By backloading it so whoever trades for him pays the bulk of the deal? Not exactly prime marketing...
    As moon says, it enabled them to keep him for a few years. It was just about the only way they could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    As moon says, it enabled them to keep him for a few years. It was just about the only way they could.

    But it also makes him less desirable in a trade...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    But it also makes him less desirable in a trade...
    Sure. Can't have it both ways, right? They did manage to trade him and maybe should have gotten more back.
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