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Thread: The Gravity of Andrew Benintendi's Slow Start

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    This is one nutty thread. I myself have criticized Beni this year and do think he has slowed. Shame on him.

    That said, it is not, as the thread title implies, a grave matter--at least, not for the team.

    First and foremost, other OPS are also down from last year: Mookie, JDM, and Bogaerts--and theirs are down more than Beni's, which was .830 last year and is .803 this year. On the other hand, Devers and Vazquez are way up, as is Moreland. Best of all, Chavis OPS is .986 vs. Kinsler's .604 last year.

    The only real liability in the lineup is JBJ, and we all know that, as does Cora. Nunez and Pearce are way down too--which is why they are on the bench most of the time. But Sandy Leon's OPS is an almost respectable (for a catcher) .627. Thus are the Sox currently 4th in MLB in runs scored vs. last year's 1st.

    In other words, the hitting is not the problem and this thread to me is a tempest in a teapot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxbialystock View Post
    This is one nutty thread. I myself have criticized Beni this year and do think he has slowed. Shame on him.

    That said, it is not, as the thread title implies, a grave matter--at least, not for the team.
    I think the words 'gravity' and 'slow' in the thread title were clever little puns by mvp - the extra weight is causing gravity to slow AB down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxbialystock View Post
    This is one nutty thread. I myself have criticized Beni this year and do think he has slowed. Shame on him.

    That said, it is not, as the thread title implies, a grave matter--at least, not for the team.

    First and foremost, other OPS are also down from last year: Mookie, JDM, and Bogaerts--and theirs are down more than Beni's, which was .830 last year and is .803 this year. On the other hand, Devers and Vazquez are way up, as is Moreland. Best of all, Chavis OPS is .986 vs. Kinsler's .604 last year.

    The only real liability in the lineup is JBJ, and we all know that, as does Cora. Nunez and Pearce are way down too--which is why they are on the bench most of the time. But Sandy Leon's OPS is an almost respectable (for a catcher) .627. Thus are the Sox currently 4th in MLB in runs scored vs. last year's 1st.

    In other words, the hitting is not the problem and this thread to me is a tempest in a teapot.
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    May 16, 2018:

    Beni's OPS was .792. This year's fat OPS is ahead of last year's skinny one.

    JBJ's OPS was .520 and dropped to .502 on May 19th before rebounding by hitting .791 the rest of the way (not counting his explsive post season).

    Vaz was at .435 (worse than JBJ now).
    Leon as at .454.
    Nunez was at .610
    Bogey was at .875.
    Holt was at .887 (.449 in 2017).
    JD M was at 1.024.
    Betts was at 1.166.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    2 for 4 with a walk last night.

    .803 OPS

    It's not like he's sucking.
    He's slower tho. Isn't that a little concerning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I think the words 'gravity' and 'slow' in the thread title were clever little puns by mvp - the extra weight is causing gravity to slow AB down.
    At least someone gets it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    If Beni saw an exit velo drop akin to what Sale's velo drop was, then I'd believe it
    Exit velocity of him getting his fat ass out of the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    You guys are brutal. Beni has been solid if not unspectacular this far. You’re looking to find something that isn’t there
    His missing speed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkzwhitestrican View Post
    Well since Panda left a couple years ago and Hanley left last year, someone else needs to fill the role of fattest player on the team. Could end up being Devers though!
    Devers is faster than Beni right now.
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    Shit, a "hobbled" Nunez is faster than 2019 Beni.
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    His SB's are way done, that's for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    At least someone gets it.
    I didn't. My bad. But, while I will occasion attack Beni or almost anyone on a bad night, in the aggregate i'm not that concerned even though it sure does look as though he has slowed down. I will almost guarantee, however, that, if Beni regains his speed and goes wild on the basepaths, he will immediately be labelled stupid for any mistake he makes.

    Speaking of the effects of gravity, I think it is fair to say that neither Devers nor Vazquez will ever compete in the featherweight class--heavyweight, most likely. Yet Devers leads the team by a bunch with steal attempts, 8, and caught stealing, 3. And Vazquez has the same number of attempted steals, 3, as probably the fastest baserunner and formerly best base-stealer on the team, Betts.

    Beni, FWIW, has 3 steals and was caught once. Mookie stole 2 and was caught once. JBJ has stolen 3 of 3 and Nunez 4 of 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    His SB's are way done, that's for sure.
    Time to 1b down. Sprint speed is down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Time to 1b down. Sprint speed is down.
    + the line drives he aint getting to this season. if his girth equated to Dingah's it would be a tradeoff. that isnt the case....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    His SB's are way done, that's for sure.
    Meh. Mookie's SB's are down even more. He used to lead the team in steals. So far this year he's attempted 3 and was caught once. Beni has attempted 4 and been caught once.

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