Shit sell the locking room furniture while there at it
Shit sell the locking room furniture while there at it
It’s time to rebuild... hell, if we even make a WC at this point it would be a joke! Let’s get our farm system back to having MLB talent to pull from and look on to the future!
Add Vaz and ERod.Originally Posted by Swiharts Ghost
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
Mookie is absolutely for sale,
The Sox should try to move as many of Betts, Porcello, Cashner, Hembree, and maybe Barnes as possible. Pearce, Moreland and Holt are probably not worth trying to move.
Anything we can get for Moreland and Holt is better than nothing.
We can re-sign Holt, if we want him back.
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
Anything that can be had for Moreland and Holt isn’t worth the phone call. Not at first.
Sell the other names first. Cashner can be a lower priority as well...
LOL what a difference a few hours makes, huh?
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
Guys, you keep talking about rebuilding. You cannot rebuild. DD traded everything in the minors not nailed down. Your farm is 30th in baseball and the gap from 29 to 30 is wide. I read a recent report on the Sox minor league system that essentially said the talent pool is thin and the upper level prospects are flawed. DD has decimated your farm. When you go to Portland, the earth is salted and the land scorched to the ground with the smoke still apparent. Rebuilding entails a minor league system you plan to hand the reigns to. That doesn’t exist in Boston. DD’s drafts have been horrible. His lack of presence in the DR or IFA realm is puzzling. His penchant for dealing anyone in the minors with the pulse is still going. He sold out for this window. He got the title, so it was worth it. But the cliff is coming and no way DD pushes his team off of it. He’s gonna prop up the mountain as high as he can and the fall will be long and deep
Why are you so down on Brock Holt?? He has an OPS >.800 and he's a bench player with the ability to play anyplace, all for $3.5M. He's not the reason this team is losing. Offensively and defensively this team is good enough to be in the thick of things. The team is losing because of the pitching staff.
It's a mere moment in a man's life between the All-Star game and the Old Timer's game.
-Vin Scully
Condensed version:
Guys, you're fucked. So suck on it. Hahahahahahahahaha
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
I suspect John Henry is going to push DD off HIS particular mountain soon enough. Clearly Henry is already exerting some control and doing it just after winning a WC. Hardly could have expected him to jump in sooner than he has. It is likely clear to John Henry that DD has not really changed his stripes and will decimate Henry's budget and will never allow the farm system to flourish. Yes Henry hired him to bring us another championship by adding to the team's core pitching and young stars. He has done that. Now Henry is stuck with a looooooong arduous management job over his Pres of Baseball Ops and I very seriously doubt Henry is interested in that.
This man is correct, but he didn't say what the real problem is, you can find positional players, its Pitching that's the problem with our Farm.
Ranked 27th at beginning of season.
Porcello leaving, Sale declining, Price good, but for only 6 innings now. Nothing in the Farm to help out at the Major League level.
So you can say keep all these guys, but Sox need to gamble, and sell high on guys that might have question marks towards next season, to get Young Pitching back.
Vazquez, Chavis, and move Betts, that's how you make a serious move get young Pitching Talent back. That's if your selling on this season. If not get ready to pay for Major League arms, only way to get it otherwise.
https://www.milb.com/milb/news/farm-...21/c-304041368
Last edited by OH FOY!; 07-17-2019 at 08:11 AM.
Which is how rebuilding works. You trade veterans for farm help and work back up by either developing that farm help or flipping the pieces for other major leaguers with more control.
Another chapter in the ongoing soap opera , " As the Game Thread turns " . Tune in tomorrow for unbridled hope and joy or utter despair . Maybe both .
Rebuilding entails having some depth in your farm to hand the reigns over to. There is nobody in that farm system likely to lead the next chapter. Yes, you can deal off some parts, but there’s no way your GM is gonna deal off guys who will actually return something. If you deal off your rentals, you’ll get scraps. Now, deal Mookie? Then you might be talking about something, but that won’t be enough to rejuvenate a farm that has been raped, pillaged and neglected for four years now.
I know you guys think DD has a Chapman deal in him, but that deal was one of many at the time. We had a .300 hitter on his way to 30 homers in Beltran. We had a lock down closer in Chap. We had a shut down reliever in Miller. We dealt all three off for a good return. But we also had Judge, Sanchez, Sevy, Andujar, Montgomery, Bird, and others home grown and MLB ready. This is what you lack. We added to a wave that was coming. There is no wave in The Sox MiLB
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