Now a trade of Benintendi and Shawaryn for Giles, Stroman and Teoscar Hernandez actually comes out spot on equal at 59.50 going each way...
Now a trade of Benintendi and Shawaryn for Giles, Stroman and Teoscar Hernandez actually comes out spot on equal at 59.50 going each way...
There’s zero chance the Jays take that deal
One thing no simulator can account for is how much Team A wants the player from Team B.Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch
I don’t doubt the equality. I do doubt Toronto’s desire to make that deal.
But in my own little fantasy world, DD made it yesterday....
See, fantasy is good. In my head Cleveland dumped Bieber as they thought he was getting too popular too fast which would lead to his down fall so the Sox got him in a trade for Beni and Thornburg and an extra set of shiny new baseballs
A trade of Stroman and Giles for Casas, Duran, Dalbec and Hernandez gives each side exactly 37.50 going each way, is a package more in line with what Toronto would likely want, and bankrupts the Sox farm in a way DD prefers to operate...
You might be thinking of the wrong Bieber...See, fantasy is good. In my head Cleveland dumped Bieber as they thought he was getting too popular too fast which would lead to his down fall so the Sox got him in a trade for Beni and Thornburg and an extra set of shiny new baseballs
I doubt that gets it done either. The extra year of control and the want of the contender is at play here. The Yanks took advantage of the need to break the billy goat curse to get an absurd return for Chapman as a rental. Miller’s return was even better at the time but Miller had another two years of control attached to him. Toronto has almost no need to package the two together unless the return is only attainable with both packaged (ie a mega prospect like Whitley or Tucker). This is why I doubt the Yanks make a move for both because their best prospect is not at that level yet (although 25 isn’t bad for Garcia) and I wonder how much we would part with to a division rival, especially with the arms on the FA market available for cash alone
Depends if KC agrees to pay a chunk of his salary or takes back some offset salary (Nunez & Pearce) as part of the deal.
(I believe we got Tampa to pay part of Eovaldi's deal last year. Tamps of all teams!)
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
Per that trade simulator, a package of Stroman (26.8) and Giles (10.7) wouldn’t get either Tucker (63.1) or Whitley (48.2) at gunpoint.
And that’s not even factoring in how unenthusiastic Houston would be about re-acquiring Ken Giles...
I think the motivation of a team like the Royals in trading Duffy is to save money while acquiring young , cheap , controllable prospects . Taking on Nunez and Pearce would make no sense for them . They might eat some of Duffy's contract if the return was sufficient.
I was mostly throwing out the reason for packaging, not the location. I do think Stroman to Houston is a distinct possibility. I doubt Giles would be heading there
Hal sucks
Nunez and or Pearce would be throw-ins instead of hard cash. They could take either and play him or trade him or cut him.... or like you said, just give cash and we could trade or DFA one or both.
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
The Royals would only get salary relief from Duffy, but I really hope you guys get him. Go for it. His K rates are down, his HR rates up and his xFIP is over 5.3. His FB velo is at the lowest of his career, down 0.9mph off last year and down 2.6mph off his most recent best season in 2016.
Hal sucks
There are lots of names being mentioned already, and some teams may decide to be sellers in the next few weeks.
Even teams like Cleveland were reportedly looking to trade Kluber, Carrasco or Bauer- knowing they had a shot at winning their weak division.
Here are just some names I've heard:
Scherzer
de Grom
Syndergaard
Kulber
Bumgarner
Bauer & Carrasco
Stroman
M Boyd
John Means
Caleb Smith
Wheeler
Leake
Cashner
Aaron Sanchez
Dylan Bundy
I'm sure there are more as of right now, and will be even more added to this list in the next few weeks.
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
I only saw Duffy pitch once this year . He was terrible. I can't evaluate him off of that , but as they say , " Let the buyer beware." The Sox should look elsewhere for pitching.
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