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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    With our pen being overworked and in shambles, going longer into games has been great for ERod, but in almost every other category of measurement, he is doing worse than 2018 (and in some, 2017 as well):

    ERA
    4.19 2017
    3.82 2018


    ERA+
    109
    116
    107

    WHIP
    1.28
    1.26
    1.32

    FIP
    3.97
    3.65
    4.03

    IP/GS
    5.7 (4th on team)
    5.4 (4th on team)
    5.9 (leads team)

    QS%
    50% (5th on team)
    30% (4th on team)
    37% (4th on team)

    Run Support/GS
    3.5
    5.9
    7.8

    Team winning %
    54%
    83%
    74%

    Strange the team won more with ERod last year, despite scoring 2 more runs for him this year!
    Not sure there is much strange about it. You can blame Manfred for our inability to use year to year stats to measure growth or even effectiveness any longer. What would Erods stats be if they had not changed the baseball yet again?

    The fact is ERod's Change has turned into a real weapon for him. The problem is that it does not buy a pitcher much playing Manfred-ball. more K's maybe for what that is worth.
    Last edited by jung; 07-13-2019 at 02:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jung View Post
    Not sure there is much strange about it. You can blame Manfred for our inability to use year to year stats to measure growth or even effectiveness any longer. What would Erods stats be if they had not changed the baseball yet again?

    The fact is ERod's Change has turned into a real weapon for him. The problem is that it does not buy a pitcher much playing Manfred-ball. more K's maybe for what that is worth.
    Good points, but the Manfred ball does not explain everything.

    AL ERA
    4.38 2017
    4.27 2018
    4.56 2019

    FIP
    4.39
    4.23
    4.56

    WHIP
    1.33
    1.31
    1.34

    ERod

    ERA
    4.19 2017 (0.19 below AL ERA)
    3.82 2018 (0.45 below)
    4.43 2019 (0.13 below)

    WHIP
    1.28 (.05 below)
    1.26 (.05 below)
    1.32 (.02 below)

    FIP
    3.97 (0.22 below)
    3.65 (0.68 below)
    4.03 (0.53 below)

    The adjustments do help ERod look better, but all the major numbers, except IP/GS are worse than 2018 after adjusting to league averages.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Good points, but the Manfred ball does not explain everything.

    AL ERA
    4.38 2017
    4.27 2018
    4.56 2019

    FIP
    4.39
    4.23
    4.56

    WHIP
    1.33
    1.31
    1.34

    ERod

    ERA
    4.19 2017 (0.19 below AL ERA)
    3.82 2018 (0.45 below)
    4.43 2019 (0.13 below)

    WHIP
    1.28 (.05 below)
    1.26 (.05 below)
    1.32 (.02 below)

    FIP
    3.97 (0.22 below)
    3.65 (0.68 below)
    4.03 (0.53 below)

    The adjustments do help ERod look better, but all the major numbers, except IP/GS are worse than 2018 after adjusting to league averages.
    Nothing explains everything, but the ball is supercharged and it is ruining the statistical integrity of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    Nothing explains everything, but the ball is supercharged and it is ruining the statistical integrity of the game.
    I agree. The HR numbers are way out of whack, but league ERA has not risen all that much, and ERod's HR/9 number is not that much higher than recent years or his career number.

    1.3 2019 and 2016
    1.2 career and 2017
    1.1 in 2018

    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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