Maybe that’s why no trade seems close.
"The main stumbling block in trade talks is how much of Myers’ contract the Red Sox would be covering,*Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune*reports, as the Padres want Boston’s obligation “to be much closer to the full value of the contract.”* The prospects reportedly being discussed in the trade aren’t any of San Diego’s “top five minor leaguers,” which would mean the likes of Gore or Patino aren’t involved."
According to the trade simulator, Betts for Myers with SD paying half of his deal would put the values at +50.7 to SD and -25.3 to BOS.
Differential 76.0.
If we get no top 5 prospects:
121.5 Tatis Jr
82.4 Gore
51.8 Abrams
50.2 Patino
32.1 Trammell
That leaves this:
ML Level:
Paddack 79.1 P
Lucchesi 38.3 P
Lamet 25.4 P
Mejia 22.2 C
Pham 20.7 OF
Grisham 18.8 OF
Naylor 18.5 OF/1B
Yates 16.0 Closer (last year)
Munoz 9.8 P
Cordero 9.6 OF
Quantrill 8.8 P
Baez 8.0 P
Wingenter 7.7 P
Strahm 7.5 P
Margot 6.6 OF
France 5.8 3B
Prospects:
Campusano 25.1 C
Morejon 13.7 P
Potts 11.9 3B (1B?)
Arias 11.3 SS (2B?)
Weathers 11.0 P
Rosario 10.8 OF
Miller 8.0 3B
Marcano 7.2 2B
To reach 76, I suppose this package meets the value set by this site:
Campusano 25.1 C
Morejon 13.7 P
Potts 11.9 3B (1B?)
Arias 11.3 SS (2B?)
Weathers 11.0 P
Maybe we get a ML'er or two + 3-4 prospects.
I don't see any combo that works for me.
(Plus, we pay Myers for 3 years. Betts is done after 2020.)
Sox 4 Ever
CC made 93 starts from 31-33. It was his age 34 season that he had knee surgery and missed the year. He then made 27 or more starts 4 years in a row after that with two seasons of 30+. Price has had a season of 11 starts and a season of 22 starts over the last 3 seasons. Outside of CC’s knee surgery season, he’s never started less than 22 games. That goes through his age 39 season.
The other major difference is that CC lost his fastball earlier than Price did and lost it to a more significant degree. CC completely reinvented himself, something Price has been slow to do
I wouldn’t finalize that deal until MLB is done with the punishment. You don’t want MLB to take that pick.
Also, a deal of Betts for Myers makes little sense outside of balancing salaries for 2020, as Myers is under contract for 21 and 22. If hold out for more. As it stands, the Sox aren’t getting more than 1 top 100 in Campusano. Grisham gives them a cheap MLB talent coming off a reasonable, albeit crushing WC debut. He’s got talent. Croneworth is really interesting as a speed/average hitter then as a high powered reliever. You also have to remember that Croneworth was with TB and went with Pham to SD. Bloom may know something we don’t. Lucchesi would give the Sox reliability. Wha trill is a bit more upside but higher risk.
That deal would give the Sox a MLb caliber 1b coming off two down years in Myers
A starting OFer in Grisham with upside
A top 100 catching prospect in Campusano
A MLB ready utility guy who doubles as a reliever in Croneworth
A big league starter either with back end reliability or back end production with blue chip potential.
That’s a deal to at least consider