They should have built a team to win (lots of lower cost guys that they let sign elsewhere), but moved Mookie and Price if the opportunity came up. Sitting around and waiting for a deal seems like the worst move to make.
I just keep going back to the law of averages -- and this -- how many fans and experts expected the Red Sox to contend a year ago? And now, how many expect them not to?
I hope most would admit and remember the answer to the first was just about everyone. This season Boston returns the same basic group of talented regulars and starting pitchers that set that franchise record for wins just two years ago.
Forget 108, but not even 90? It all comes down to the mound... some point to '18 heroics from Sale, Price and Eovaldi and hope for more; others look at injuries from '19 and predict even less. Is it unreasonable to expect something in between? After all, the Big Three has averaged a combined 39 wins per year in their careers (including last season's MASH unit when they combined for only 15). Don't forget the Red Sox won 93 in each of '17 and '16 -- the former with Price on the DL, the latter with Sale pitching for Chicago.
First base lost its combo of All-Star/WS MVP (for now). Second base has been an issue-- at least turning the DP, since DP himself has been out. The Sox also lost some valuable arms in Kimbrel, Kelly and Porcello -- none are as good as they were, but all are casualties of constricted payroll... which has prevented replacing them with name pitchers.
Less glamorous alternatives are a facet of roster refinement that Sox fans are just not used to under current ownership. This is where we'll have to wait and see, and trust in Chaim Bloom... and not doom and gloom.
Pitchers and catchers are coming soon -- even if we don't recognize them!
i dont disagree with any of this.
the only thing i can say is that IMO the only way we can sign Mookie to a LTC is if we reset the luxury tax. we have to shed payroll from this current roster in order to reset. so while i would cheer and hope for a mid 90 win season from the current team, i just dont see how we can have the current team as-is and sign mookie next offseason. we need to shed payroll prior to ASB.
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I totally agree with this. I can't imagine he'd agree to do the company a big favor by transferring his office to another part of the country for six months only to come back next winter. A club that once fought him -- and lost -- on arbitration should now bend over backwards to accommodate Betts all season if they want him to re-up.
The more I look at this situation the less I like it and the more I think we should just let Mookie walk and not resign him. "BLASPHEME" you say?
Here's the problem with letting Mookie go and then resigning him for $375/11. (notice that I've split the two estimates of $350M & $400M since they're both estimates anyway). It's a short term solution to a long term problem.
If we resign him for $34M/year for 11 years we're still on the hook for $34M/year for one player. All we've done is kick the LT can down the road a couple of years and after that couple of years we'll still be on that hook for $34M when we'll be looking at Devers' contract as well as replacing JDM's bat + trying to rebuild a pitching staff with the "leftover" money. I question that's even feasible unless JH wants to get back into the high LT cycle/rebuilding again - only this time with Mookie's salary guaranteed.
I'm seriously beginning to wonder if it's not smarter to spread that $34M around rather than pour it all into one player who only comes to bat every nine AB's and can only play one position in the field. Injury risk aside, I'd rather put that money into a FA pitcher in a front-loaded deal.
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in many many cases i would agree with you. not with mookie. he has been let it known over and over that he is going to FA and the reason is to maximize his $$$. he will sign the biggest contract. full stop. it wont matter what team it is. he could be traded 10x this season and all 10 teams will be in contention to sign Mookie Betts if they offer the biggest $$$ contract.
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I think it's reasonable to expect that Price & Eovaldi will make about 20-25 starts each and have trips to the injured list. So of those 20-25 starts, the big question is how quality will they be? I hope that Eovaldi at least will show us the talent he showed in parts of 2018, but realistically the 40-50 starts overall will probably end up around league average (4.10 ERA combined).
Sale is the big question mark. I'm really worried he breaks down by the end of April and needs Tommy John surgery.
This season Boston returns the same basic group of talented regulars and starting pitchers that set that franchise record for wins just two years ago.
This is just plain false.
Yes, some additions by subtractions listed below, but look at who we replaced these guys with...
Missing from the 2018 roster are (listed by most PAs or IP in 2018):
PA
6. Nunez 502
8. Moreland 459
9. Holt 367
10. Leon 288
12. Swihart 207
13. HRam 195
14. Pearce 165 (very important in playoffs)
15. Kinsler 143
IP
1. Porcello 191
5. Johnson 99 (still in system- not on 40 man roster)
7. Pomeranz 74
8. Kelly 66
9. Kimbrel 62 (most high leverage)
13 Wright 54
16 Thornburg 24
8 out of the top 15 PA guys gone.
6 of the top 13 IP guys gone.
This is NOT the 2018 team, and neither was the 2019 team.
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?