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Thread: CRACIN: a keeper? 15 game winner for Milwaukee

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldtimer View Post
    Were are looking for some low cost pitching for next season and at least he has shown possibility. Johnson and Velazquez have not.
    Actually, Johnson and Velazquez have shown some good stretches over their careers.

    Look, I have little faith in Johnson or Velazquez, in fact, I have close to zero faith in either of them, but I see Chacin in about the same way- maybe a little better. I'd bring all 3 back next spring along with others and see who may shine. Chances are none of these three will, but the more we bring back, the better chance we have that one or two turn out okay.

    Johnson looked very promising in 2018. That was not that long ago. Again, I have little hope in Brian, but that 2018 sample size is way bigger than Chacin's brief flash of goodness.

    Johnson had 13 starts, last year. We went 9-4 in his starts and he had a 4.15 ERA. Overall, he pitched just under 100 IP with a 4.17 ERA. (MLB: 4.84 ERA in 166 IP/ AAA: 3.21 ERA in 278 IP/AA 2.83 ERA in 124 IP)

    Velazquez had 8 starts in 2018. He also had 1 4.15 ERA as a SP'er, and we went 5-3 in his starts. Hector has already proven he can go 85 IP with a 3.18 ERA (2018). (MLB: 3.85 in 161 IP/ AAA- 2.34 ERA in 119 IP/ Mexican League 3.76 ERA in 687 IP)

    I don't expect him to do that in 2020, but I think we should bring him back.

    Chacin has a long history in MLB. He's been good and very good, at times. He has a 4.00 ERA from 2016-2018 with a 1.28 WHIP. Sure, there's hope. Sure, I'dlike to see him in the mix next spring. He's had longer stretches of success than Johnson and Velazquez, but he also has looked as bad as them both. He was at 5.79 with MIL, this year with a 1.52 WHIP in 89 IP. He's been over 4.80 in 3 of his last 6 seasons. He's been under 3.90 the other 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldtimer View Post
    Were are looking for some low cost pitching for next season and at least he has shown possibility. Johnson and Velazquez have not.
    This.

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    Still feelin' the love?
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Is it Webercracklin of Cracklinweber?
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Still feelin' the love?
    Over Johnson and Velasquez? Hell yes!

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    This cracin guy is horrible! I understand signing him now out of total desperation, but why would we want him anywhere within a 100 mile radius of Fenway next year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Cook View Post
    This cracin guy is horrible! I understand signing him now out of total desperation, but why would we want him anywhere within a 100 mile radius of Fenway next year!
    He was the best starting pitcher on a team that made the NLCS last year. But hey, one bad inning, right?

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    Chacin is absolutely worth bringing him back. There is no reason he won't be a perfectly adequate mid-rotation type of guy.

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    I'd keep Weber and Chacin as depth and prayers.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    And the final word on Chacin is:

    Yuck!
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    Final word on Cashner:

    YUCK!

    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    I won’t miss either one...

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    Man we've seen some bad pitching this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    He was the best starting pitcher on a team that made the NLCS last year. But hey, one bad inning, right?
    You might want to look at his last three starts. His stuff is weak. He serves up more meatballs per hitter than Porcello!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Cook View Post
    You might want to look at his last three starts. His stuff is weak. He serves up more meatballs per hitter than Porcello!!!!
    You mean the games that hadn’t been pitched when I made that post?

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