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    Just posting this because I found it interesting, you can draw your own conclusions:

    Year over Year Team HR Comparison

    ARI: +40 HRs compared to 2018
    ATL: +70
    BAL: +20
    BOS: +30
    CHC: +82
    CHW: -9
    CIN: +49
    CLE: +1
    COL: +7
    DET: +10
    HOU: +73
    KCR: +4
    LAA: +1
    LAD: +35
    MIA: +9
    MIL: +25
    MIN: +131!!!
    NYM: +64
    NYY: +32
    OAK: +24
    PHI: +21
    PIT: +4
    SDP: +53
    SEA: +62
    SFG: +31
    STL: -2
    TBR: +61
    TEX: +22
    TOR: +23
    WSN: +49

    - Only two teams this year have hit less HRs than last year (and there's a good chance only one or none will have hit less, since there's still about 5 games to go)
    - Half of all teams have hit at least 30 more HRs this year than last year
    - The average team has hit 34 more home runs to this point than all of last season and there have been 18% more HRs in total compared to last year
    - Four teams have broken last year's single season HR record
    - The Dodgers hit the 2nd most HRs in baseball last season with 235. That total would not even finish in the top 10 this season.
    - The Orioles have hit 208 HRs this season, which is the 22nd most in baseball. That total would have been 9th best in baseball last season.
    - 55 players this season have hit 30+ HRs compared to 27 players last season
    - 125 players this season have hit 20+ HRs compared to 100 last season

    Keep in mind that every team still has 4-6 games remaining, so these numbers will end up being even more outrageous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    1966 3.99
    1967 3.77
    1968 3.42
    1969 4.07
    1970 4.34
    1971 3.89
    1972 3.69
    1973 4.21
    1974 4.12
    1975 4.21
    1976 3.99
    1977 4.47
    1978 4.10
    1979 4.46
    1980 4.29
    1981 4.00
    1982 4.30
    1983 4.31
    1984 4.26
    1985 4.33
    1986 4.41
    1987 4.72
    1988 4.14
    1989 4.13
    1990 4.26
    1991 4.31
    1992 4.12
    1993 4.60
    1994 4.92
    1995 4.85
    1996 5.04
    1997 4.77
    1998 4.79
    1999 5.08
    2000 5.14
    2001 4.78
    2002 4.62
    2003 4.73
    2004 4.81
    2005 4.59
    2006 4.86
    2007 4.80
    2008 4.65
    2009 4.61
    2010 4.38
    2011 4.28
    2012 4.32
    2013 4.17
    2014 4.07
    2015 4.25
    2016 4.48
    2017 4.65
    2018 4.45
    2019 4.83
    2020 4.65
    Last edited by Bellhorn04; 02-11-2021 at 07:44 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I started with 1966 just to show the 2 years before 1968, the Year of the Pitcher. After 1968 they lowered the mound.
    It's worth considering that the MLB raised the mound in '63, so the nadir of offense was '63-68... though a hard-hopper through the middle then was still a base-hit.

    The mid-70s were maybe the weakest power time, even in the AL with the DH. In '76, only one batter hit over 30 home runs -- Graig Nettles (32). On the Red Sox pennant-winner in '75, the leading HR man was HOFer Jim Rice... with 22.

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    Apparently they're de-juicing the baseball a little this year, so the number will likely go down a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    1966 3.99
    1967 3.77
    1968 3.42
    1969 4.07
    1970 4.34
    1971 3.89
    1972 3.69
    1973 4.21
    1974 4.12
    1975 4.21
    1976 3.99
    1977 4.47
    1978 4.10
    1979 4.46
    1980 4.29
    1981 4.00
    1982 4.30
    1983 4.31
    1984 4.26
    1985 4.33
    1986 4.41
    1987 4.72
    1988 4.14
    1989 4.13
    1990 4.26
    1991 4.31
    1992 4.12
    1993 4.60
    1994 4.92
    1995 4.85
    1996 5.04
    1997 4.77
    1998 4.79
    1999 5.08
    2000 5.14
    2001 4.78
    2002 4.62
    2003 4.73
    2004 4.81
    2005 4.59
    2006 4.86
    2007 4.80
    2008 4.65
    2009 4.61
    2010 4.38
    2011 4.28
    2012 4.32
    2013 4.17
    2014 4.07
    2015 4.25
    2016 4.48
    2017 4.65
    2018 4.45
    2019 4.85
    4.36 so far this year.
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    It's not like the league was trending towards 5+ runs per game, again.

    If this was all to shorten the games, these guys are dumber than I thought.
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    I have fallen back in love with baseball this season. I don't have a single problem with any of the rule changes. If the trend of fewer runs continues, I am ok with that. I love going to the ballpark and watching a pitcher dominate. I personally think that some of the more traditional baseball enthusiasts need to be a little more open minded and embracing of change.
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    I can't disagree with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    4.36 so far this year.
    The big problem in 1968 that made baseball "boring" to detractors was the 340 shutouts (including Gibson's 17-K Game One of the World Series; which was rather exciting to purists). Zero offense just wasn't doing it for fans of a relatively new form of entertainment gaining in momentum: the NFL on color TV!

    Edit: there were also only 20 teams, instead of 30 -- math men feel free to calculate and compare those percentages of shutouts from ancient times to nowadays.
    Last edited by 5GoldGloves:OF,75; 05-10-2021 at 09:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I have fallen back in love with baseball this season. I don't have a single problem with any of the rule changes. If the trend of fewer runs continues, I am ok with that. I love going to the ballpark and watching a pitcher dominate. I personally think that some of the more traditional baseball enthusiasts need to be a little more open minded and embracing of change.
    Yeah, baseball is still pretty awesome, especially compared to just about everything else in the world.
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    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    The big problem in 1968 that made baseball "boring" to detractors was the 340 shutouts (including Gibson's 17-K Game One of the World Series; which was rather exciting to purists). Zero offense just wasn't doing it for fans of a relatively new form of entertainment gaining in momentum: the NFL on color TV!

    Edit: there were also only 20 teams, instead of 30 -- math men feel free to calculate and compare those percentages of shutouts from ancient times to nowadays.
    One could argue the expansions starting in 1961 also made baseball a bit worse, as suddenly there were four full teams worth of players in the league who would not have been there in 1960.

    In fact, the true heyday for baseball was probably 1948 through to 1960. The league still had a limited amount of roster places available, but now had a bigger talent pool from which to chose. (Although some teams did drop the ball using it properly, and for all the wrong reasons.)

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    Heyday is a funny word LOL
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    FYI, the new baseball is slightly lighter than prior. Testing is showing that it’s allowing the ball to spin more out of the hand and stay up in the zone at higher velocities, hence severely depressing offense. Manfred should be fired for pushing for this

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    FYI, the new baseball is slightly lighter than prior. Testing is showing that it’s allowing the ball to spin more out of the hand and stay up in the zone at higher velocities, hence severely depressing offense. Manfred should be fired for pushing for this
    Yeah, that's a good point. It's not just that the ball doesn't travel as far, it's that the pitchers are able to spin it more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    FYI, the new baseball is slightly lighter than prior. Testing is showing that it’s allowing the ball to spin more out of the hand and stay up in the zone at higher velocities, hence severely depressing offense. Manfred should be fired for pushing for this
    He's been a joke from day one.
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    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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    Weren't we all complaining about the new juiced baseballs just last year?

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