True, but we did have a stretch with 3 last place finishes if 4 years.Originally Posted by notin
True, but we did have a stretch with 3 last place finishes if 4 years.
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
During which time we were rebuilding, just as the Rays have been doing.
I'm not completely sold on the way the Rays do business but I do think there has to be some middle ground between the way the two team's FO runs their teams. It involves making a rational judgement of how good your team is and whether or not to trade a player (like ERod or Chavis or even Beni) for prospects knowing that you may finish 3rd next year but the year after you could have that WSC team.
At the end of the day the thing that's done in the Sox farm system is that damn, irresponsible business of finishing 1st in their division for three consecutive years. It's ruined our chance to get prospects to replenish the farm!
It's a mere moment in a man's life between the All-Star game and the Old Timer's game.
-Vin Scully
This is also the first year the Sox didn't finish first or fifth since 2011.
And despite that the Sox used those years to build their farm with players like Benintendi, Kopech, and Moncada, all that happens instead is debating about the job Cherington did and not how it benefited the club today. Sox fans are all about today. Not tomorrow. Many want to wait until tomorrow to fix it...
Yes, but "today" is all about yesterday when today was tomorrow, which was last year not today.
Hope that made your head spin like mine did writing it!
What cracks me up is how often we hear how trading prospects in a good thing, because their value is potential and speculative or that none of the guys we have traded have amounted to jack, so far (Moncada excluded), yet some of the same guys, okay, maybe not the same guys, now want to tell us to have faith in our farm rebuilding and how all these fine young prospects are going to lead us away from the mirage of a cliff. It literally cracks me up.
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
Please lock this topic up .I was angry as a wet cat when I wrote it .Erod is part of this teams future .
LOL, not much has changed since 9/29/19, in terms of ERod.
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
Why can't we make small market moves, if we could do it brilliantly?
Why do we have to make big market moves which end up handcuffing us for years to come?
It's also finding those second tier players that will give you more bang for you buck than the high priced free agents.
I am so not a fan of our gigantic payroll.
I guess the obvious answer is that the difference between us and the Rays is the 4 rings. I wouldn't trade.
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
In theory, it would be great, if we could master such "small market moves," and then make very few "big market moves" only when needed and only in strict moderation and for highly selective players (like Betts).
When you say it's gonna happen now
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Exactly.
Look at the Yankees. They made small market moves to acquire Voit, Hicks, Urshela, Grigorius. Even the contract they gave to LeMahieu wasn’t a big market deal...
They haven't won it all in a long time either, but your point is a good one.
If the Dodgers win this year, does that mean it proves some big market moves are needed?
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The following players are the highest paid contracts in MLB history. How many have rings during those contracts?
All over $150M total. Red= Ring
Trout, Harper, Stanton, Machado, ARod ('08-'17), Arenado, ARod ('01-'10), Miggy, Pujols, Cano, Votto, Price, Kershaw, Fielder, Scherzer, Greinke, Jeter ('01-'10), Mauer, Heywood, Teixeira, Verlander***, Felix H, Strasburg, Posey, Altuve ('18-'24), CC Sabathia ('09-'15), Chris Davis, Manny, Kemp, Tulo, Tanaka, Lester, AGon, Ellsbury, Miggy ('08-'15).
*** Not with team that signed him
Last edited by moonslav59; 10-08-2019 at 07:12 PM.
When you say it's gonna happen now
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Make Lester red. 2016...
Done.
When you say it's gonna happen now
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