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    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    When this new stadium opened, the ticket prices were so high that they priced out most of the scum element. Apparently, wages have caught up with ticket prices, and the scummy Yankee fans are back.
    Or, scum has reached the upper middle class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Or, scum has reached the upper middle class.
    Scum knows no financial limits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Or, scum has reached the upper middle class.
    Are you familiar with "trickledown"?
    It's a mere moment in a man's life between the All-Star game and the Old Timer's game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S5Dewey View Post
    Are you familiar with "trickledown"?
    Better known as trickled on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Batters walked in '19 - what does that mean?
    Boston pitchers led the league in bases on balls issued. That's how bad the Red Sox were this season, and why their games took forever to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    Boston pitchers led the league in bases on balls issued. That's how bad the Red Sox were this season, and why their games took forever to watch.
    Got it. I thought you were talking about our offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FredLynn View Post
    Your act is getting old.
    That really hurts my feelings. If I valued your opinion it might make a difference. But, since I don't, it doesn't matter what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Cook View Post
    I have the perfect cure to the Yankees choking problems. Hire desperate Dave and fire cashman!
    Believe me, Iíve thought about that possibility. Twice we came up against these Astros and twice we took them deep into a series, yet twice we went home. Weíve lost to the eventual champs the last two years. Iím pretty sure itíll be three in a row. Itís time to make a bigger juggernaut

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    It's almost seems lately as if someone upstairs is preventing Cashman from committing the big bucks to marquee free agents. I thought for sure the Yanks would've signed Machado or Harper, though the former would've made more sense in that they could've dealt Andujar for pitching depth. Do you think George would've opened the purse for either? Or at least make both Cole and Strasburg offers they can't refuse?

    I'm pretty convinced DD wasn't allowed to make any deals at the last deadline (esp. after Henry's quote, "We're not looking to add payroll"). Standing pat just isn't in DD's nature, and a surplus third base prospect like Dalbec surely could've netted someone like Hudson, the new closer for the NL champs.

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    George would 100% sign both cole & strasburg this offseason. no doubt about it.
    the sons are more interested in their own bank account then the need for parades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    George would 100% sign both cole & strasburg this offseason. no doubt about it.
    the sons are more interested in their own bank account then the need for parades.
    Now that they reset, we'll see if this is true or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Now that they reset, we'll see if this is true or not.
    the only way to find out if its true is to bring George back to life??? can we do that yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    the only way to find out if its true is to bring George back to life??? can we do that yet?
    We can do it with Microsoft AI, according to Common...

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    The Yanks have spent for sure. Theyíre just averse to long term contracts for pitchers. Right now, Hicks at 6 more years and Stanton at 8 more years, are our long term deals. Our longest non arb pitcher deal is Severino and his deal was for four seasons. There was an interesting stat making the rounds that we have not signed a starting pitcher for more than 4 years since we signed Tanaka prior to 2015. And they havenít offered a pitcher more than 5 years since that time as well, which is why Corbin is playing in Washington. Chapman was our longest pitcher deal since Tanaka and at this point it was a resounding success.

    What Cashman needs to be willing to do is to go the extra mile for the top tier guys. Corbin wasnít top tier, so I get the aversion. But Cole and Strasburg are top tier arms and a price comes with them. Typically, the top tier arms donít Carl Pavano you. Even when they show diminished stuff like Price did on signing, they still give good to great production for the first half of the contract. Also, Cole just turned 29, so heíll be a year younger than Price was on signing his deal.

    Now Strasburg will likely come cheaper than Cole. Strasburg is 31 and has quite the injury history. So maybe he fits the 5 year window the yanks are willing to offer. But the price on him is gonna be closer to $25-$28 mil AAV. Cole is 29, and has thrown 200+ IP 4 of the last 5 seasons. Heís also the most dominant force in baseball right now. Heís gonna get a 7-8 year deal likely with an AAV over $32 mil. Now, maybe the Yanks get creative and turn it into a 3 yr deal? 8 yr $240 mil deal with half the contract coming in the first 3 seasons and an opt out? Who knows, but the price will be very steep and we need to be willing to pay it

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    The Yanks have spent for sure. Theyíre just averse to long term contracts for pitchers. Right now, Hicks at 6 more years and Stanton at 8 more years, are our long term deals. Our longest non arb pitcher deal is Severino and his deal was for four seasons. There was an interesting stat making the rounds that we have not signed a starting pitcher for more than 4 years since we signed Tanaka prior to 2015. And they havenít offered a pitcher more than 5 years since that time as well, which is why Corbin is playing in Washington. Chapman was our longest pitcher deal since Tanaka and at this point it was a resounding success.

    What Cashman needs to be willing to do is to go the extra mile for the top tier guys. Corbin wasnít top tier, so I get the aversion. But Cole and Strasburg are top tier arms and a price comes with them. Typically, the top tier arms donít Carl Pavano you. Even when they show diminished stuff like Price did on signing, they still give good to great production for the first half of the contract. Also, Cole just turned 29, so heíll be a year younger than Price was on signing his deal.

    Now Strasburg will likely come cheaper than Cole. Strasburg is 31 and has quite the injury history. So maybe he fits the 5 year window the yanks are willing to offer. But the price on him is gonna be closer to $25-$28 mil AAV. Cole is 29, and has thrown 200+ IP 4 of the last 5 seasons. Heís also the most dominant force in baseball right now. Heís gonna get a 7-8 year deal likely with an AAV over $32 mil. Now, maybe the Yanks get creative and turn it into a 3 yr deal? 8 yr $240 mil deal with half the contract coming in the first 3 seasons and an opt out? Who knows, but the price will be very steep and we need to be willing to pay it

    Price was coming off a season with a career high 6.7 fWAR and his average fastball velocity was up a full mph over the previous season when the Sox signed him. Not sure where you get your stuff, but you're not going to shake your reputation for denigrating all things Red Sox while praising all things Yankee with statements like this...

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