Annnnnnd the Yankees choke

[moonslav59]

Understood SG. Thankfully I was in a wedding last night and was absolutely obliterated when the game ended. Filled the pain. What the Yanks did this year was unprecedented. We had 30 different players on the IL. A full roster is 25. We had 25 guys plus 5 backups on the injured list. That’s insane. To recap

We lost the runner up for ROY, Andujar, for the season on day 3.
Stanton plays in 19 games due to being entirely snakebit.
Severino spends the first 5 months on the shelf.
Montgomery is on the shelf due to TJS and is delayed 2 months due to shoulder tendonitis
Sanchez has two stints on the IL for leg issues
Judge missed two months with an oblique
Voit misses a month and pretty much isn’t the same due to a Sports hernia
EE gets dealt for, breaks a wrist then pulls an oblique
Bird and Ellsbury miss the whole year, no big loss
Paxton missed three weeks with a knee and goes into the postseason with sciatica
Hicks tears his UCL
Tauchman misses 6 weeks with a calf issue
Frazier misses 3 weeks with an ankle
Estrada misses a month with a leg issue
Gregorius missed the first two months coming off TJS
Betances misses 5 months with a shoulder issue and tears his Achilles on his return
Heller missed the year with TJS
Loaisiga missed 2 months with a shoulder issue
CC was on the DL for awhile with knee and shoulder issues
Hale looks good early then misses the year with a back issue
German spent 2 weeks on the IL with a hip then is suspended for beating his GF
Happ spent time on the IL with biceps tendinitis

There were more, but those are off the top of my head. And they still were fighting for a WS berth. They didn’t quit when they had every excuse to. All players should return healthy for 2020. Give us an ace, keep the pen strong and make a run in 2020 when the other super teams should be a bit weaker

Stunning list.

You guys can hold your heads up high this winter, but Cashman has some work to do with that rotation.

[Bellhorn04]

Stunning list.

You guys can hold your heads up high this winter, but Cashman has some work to do with that rotation.

Maybe the training and conditioning units as well. And stop acquiring so many human hulks.

[fxkatt]

And some posters are most prominent only when the Yankees lose.

There was no ALCS thread until it was safely over... So, I gotta agree with you.

[Kimmi]

2030 Think of that ? Yikes .Judge and their star third baseman will want to break the bank .Sanchez is a DH and will want more than JDM .Window is 2 years for that team .

I am so glad that we did not trade for Stanton.

Plus, I expect the Yankees to open their wallets this offseason, adding even more eventual albatrosses to their team.

[Kimmi]

You know what I love almost as much as just the fact that the Yankees lost?

This whole "You can't win without a strong pen" thing took a big hit last night and in the 2019 playoffs.

1) Osuna blows the biggest save of his life.
2) Chapman blows the game.
3) The Nats make the World Series with the 22nd best pen by WAR.
4) The Astros make the WS with the 8th best pen by WAR. (Boston was 5th.)

ERA-
3. HOU 84
8. BOS 91
30. WAS 126

WHIP
2. HOU 1.16
19. BOS 1.39
27. WAS 1.48 (awful!)

K/BB
5. HOU 3.1
17. BOS 2.4
21. WAS 2.3

xFIP
1. HOU 4.06
10. BOS 4.43
29. WASH 5.03 (UGLY!)

If the Nats win, will this mean the whole focus moves back to the rotation?

The focus should always be on the rotation. The pen should be built inexpensively, and by inexpensive, I don't mean weak. I don't believe the pen should be the place to spend valuable resources.

[moonslav59]

I am so glad that we did not trade for Stanton.

Plus, I expect the Yankees to open their wallets this offseason, adding even more eventual albatrosses to their team.

Me, too.

People said I was crazy for wanting the Yanks to sign both Harper and Machado.

I wonder how many wish they did, now.

[Tedballgame]

Understood SG. Thankfully I was in a wedding last night and was absolutely obliterated when the game ended. Filled the pain. What the Yanks did this year was unprecedented. We had 30 different players on the IL. A full roster is 25. We had 25 guys plus 5 backups on the injured list. That’s insane. To recap

We lost the runner up for ROY, Andujar, for the season on day 3.
Stanton plays in 19 games due to being entirely snakebit.
Severino spends the first 5 months on the shelf.
Montgomery is on the shelf due to TJS and is delayed 2 months due to shoulder tendonitis
Sanchez has two stints on the IL for leg issues
Judge missed two months with an oblique
Voit misses a month and pretty much isn’t the same due to a Sports hernia
EE gets dealt for, breaks a wrist then pulls an oblique
Bird and Ellsbury miss the whole year, no big loss
Paxton missed three weeks with a knee and goes into the postseason with sciatica
Hicks tears his UCL
Tauchman misses 6 weeks with a calf issue
Frazier misses 3 weeks with an ankle
Estrada misses a month with a leg issue
Gregorius missed the first two months coming off TJS
Betances misses 5 months with a shoulder issue and tears his Achilles on his return
Heller missed the year with TJS
Loaisiga missed 2 months with a shoulder issue
CC was on the DL for awhile with knee and shoulder issues
Hale looks good early then misses the year with a back issue
German spent 2 weeks on the IL with a hip then is suspended for beating his GF
Happ spent time on the IL with biceps tendinitis

There were more, but those are off the top of my head. And they still were fighting for a WS berth. They didn’t quit when they had every excuse to. All players should return healthy for 2020. Give us an ace, keep the pen strong and make a run in 2020 when the other super teams should be a bit weaker

That is such an impressive list. You know what you won? NOTHING. Those stats are for losers. The Yankees couldn't get it done when it mattered. The year is a failure!

[Tedballgame]

And some posters are most prominent only when the Yankees lose.

Been here all year pal!

[jacksonianmarch]

Me, too.

People said I was crazy for wanting the Yanks to sign both Harper and Machado.

I wonder how many wish they did, now.

I wanted Machado, but Cashman was far wiser in being happy with what we had and then getting Lemahieu as insurance.

[harmony]

Been here all year pal!

With a three-week gap as the Yankees swept the Twins in the postseason.

[jung]

With a three-week gap as the Yankees swept the Twins in the postseason.

The lesson is starting pitching still wins championships Manfred can push power baseball all he wants. He has juiced the ball itself to kingdom come.

The yanks can keep hulking up and bulking up all they want. Go on Yanks keep signing those relief arms too. You end up with the booby prize. A division flag. Whoopdie-ding-dong. Nobody can accuse me of calling the division flag nothing when somebody else wins it. Everybody on this forum knows I consider Division flags over a house meaningless whether it is our house or somebody else's house. If you can't at least raise a LCS flag over your house, don't raise anything at all.

All a Division Crown flag over your house says is that somebody else in your league was better than you that year. You got beat.

[moonslav59]

How many new threads are there on the Yankees losing?

I can't keep up!

[d-money]

Already the post talking about gerrit cole. Is that even possible? These asswipes gotta have a damn budget. This is ridiculous.

[FredLynn]

Been here all year pal!

Can we change that next year?

[notin]

Already the post talking about gerrit cole. Is that even possible? These asswipes gotta have a damn budget. This is ridiculous.

Yankee fan want Gerrit Cole. Cole reportedly wants the west coast.

So maybe Madison Bumgarner as the consolation prize...