Betts ain't no Rickey Henderson. And also, Rickey slowed down as soon as he hit 30. I mean yeah he stil stole quite a few bases after 30 but not near what he did under 30.
A lot of Betts value is based on his speed ( defense , base running ). Once betts hits 30 he's already going to decline.
He's my favorite current sox but no way I give him a 400 Million contracts. He wasn't even the best Sox this year. I'm sorry but if you want a 400 million contract you best be the team's best player every year on his team like trout is.
Bets dipped and Bogey soared, but one could argue Betts, with his superior defense, was still the best on the team.
I won't argue with anyone who says Bogey was better, but I also won't hold that against Betts.
I don't think anyone gives him $400M, even if it's for 15 years. My guess is he gets something between $320/10 and $350/10. I'm not sure who will offer that or more.
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Any team that signs betts to a long term nine figure deal is nuts. Welcome to Pedroia part 2.
Betts is entering his walk year. He has massive motivation to have a monster year.
We need to put him in the lead off spot and let him tee off on opposing pitchers, while simultaneously reaping the benefits of a resurgent Martinez.
At the end of the year, we let Betts walk. He wants to play for Atlanta, so let them worry about Betts when he breaks down in year 5 or 6.
You seem pretty sure of that breakdown, and I'm not saying there's no significant chance of a steep decline, but to me, Betts will earn his 10 year contract in his first 6-7 years of the deal. Yes, it would suck, if he was horrible the last 3-4 years, but I'd still sign they guy longterm.
I think the plan will be to hover around the tgax line until July (No JBJ & Leon, at least at their arb rates), then we'll decide to keep Betts and make a playoff push- perhaps going over the tax line to do it, or trade Betts and maybe others to improve the rebuild chances and quicken the turn around. (Personally, I'd still make him a hefty offer as a FA- maybe $320/10.)
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An MLB.com writer proposed some rather underwhelming trade proposals of Betts to the Mets: Nimmo and Matz? Diaz and Smith? What, you want someone with star potential... how about McNeil -- but we'd need Betts and Eovaldi.
Pass, pass, pass. He finally came up with a one-for-one: Betts for Thor.
That's getting warmer, but still not worth it to me for one of the game's top five players (plus, isn't there some kind of new GM rule advising against ever trading an All-Star position player for a pitcher straight up?). Syndergaard is good, but is coming off a season where he led the NL in earned runs allowed. As I've said from the beginning of the offseason, I wouldn't consider moving Mookie unless I was overpaid... McNeil and Thor?
Bloom and the Sox are smart enough to listen to all offers, but also to wait them all out unless an overwhelming, publically-perceived win looks guaranteed.
MLBTR has an article about how the Padres [plan to package a few prospects for an upgrade to the MLB roster. And they really do have to do it, since they risk losing some during the Rule 5 draft.
This is a trade scenario that screams "Betts to San Diego!!!" loud enough to be hard at both poles simultaneously....
rickey was a guaranteed PED user. no doubt about it. you cannot use his "longevity" as a comp to a player that is tested.
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