Then what you were saying when you said, "And while we might have seen an unlikely worst case scenario, I still wouldn't say the whole situation was unforseeable" what you were saying is that it probably wouldn't have happened, but it could.
That's pretty much what you can say about any situation.
It's a mere moment in a man's life between the All-Star game and the Old Timer's game.
-Vin Scully
Except that the point was it was not unforeseeable, meaning it was foreseeable, and not even by pessimists alone. The Sox had 3 pitchers with either recent or significant injury history. Really we knew someone was going to get hurt. But what happened was the worst case scenario where they all did...
A decision to keep Betts because that's who fans want to see is a decision based on the business side of things (money), not based on the baseball side of things (wins). This is akin to Lucchino wanting to make a 'splash' or a 'sexy' move, and what supposedly created such a rift between him and Theo. While keeping Mookie is probably also the best decision in terms of wins, the FO should not operate based on who the fans want to see.
But if the Sox had kept Lynn only to watch him leave one year later, they still would have been a bad team from them until Clemens. The problem wasn’t that they traded Lynn, it was that they traded him for an aging Frank Tanana, an even older Joe Rudi, and a non-prospect borderline major league talent named Jim Dorsey...
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
notin - seriously now this has nothing to do with a discussion about whatever DD did or did not do. We all know how you feel about DD. it is your right to feel that way but it isn't part of this discussion. There must be a thread somewhere that continues to beat up on a past GM don't you think. Personally I'm operating in the here and now. If Mookie is traded and you want to blame it on Dave Dombrowski well that's nice but once again the average fan likely will already have forgotten the past GM's name. He probably does not care about this.
I hardly doubt that a decision to keep Betts will be dictated by what the fans want or expect. The decision to keep Mookie I think is likely to be made on the fact that shy of Trout he may be the best player in the game for years to come. Signing Mookie long term would be a long way from even resembling a "splashy" move which has been suggested. Giving away a generational talent for next to nothing would be hard to take and I doubt that any amount of spin suggesting that it helps out our farm is going to go over very well.
Are you kidding?
Reasons like this are exactly why I didn’t like Dombrowski. Why do you think people complained about his depletion of the farm?? No one was complaining about that because they care more about the Sea Dogs than the Red Sox.
Think about what the Sox are going to have to spend money on this off-season.
Starting pitchers? Like Logan Allen or Kopech or Beeks.
CF? Like Margot, maybe?
2b? Moncada would fit nicely. Or Dubon, so we can still get Sale.
But as it stands now, if they reset it’s near impossible to fill those positions from within and not spend. Now some of DD’s trades were certainly worthwhile, but the whole stack together left the cupboard pretty bare at a time when the Sox need it not to be. At least if they want to keep Betts...
We'll know within a year or two some of the effects of nearly emptying the farm.
The debate will likely never end, and will be revived every time one of the young guys we trade has a great season (or more).
Again,I was fine with what DD did since we won a ring, but I knew the price we'd have to pay would be painful at some point.
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I was concerned about losing Moncada and sort of a little concerned with losing Kopech but getting Chris Sale was worth it and would have been silly not to make the trade. As for everyone of those other players lost - ho hum. I will admit though that I was fond of Margot and Dubon. I absolutely believe that it is time to look ahead and those who continually keep expressing negative feelings about DD have something else going on. What it is, I don't know. Maybe it is a constant need to feel right when there likely is no right or wrong. It strikes me as strange. The majority of successful people that I know tend to look ahead and not backward. I'm all in on our new GM but he won't get any free pass from most fans regardless of what he was left with. It is about him now and not our former GM. From all reports it looks like the right guy could have been hired. Let's see how he does.
It's ludicrous to blame DD if we don't keep Betts.
It's not DD's fault that Mookie turned up his nose at a $200 million extension offer because he has his heart set on something more astronomical like $350 million.
It's not DD'd fault that Mookie is the second best player in the game and is all about the money.
Also, after the 2020 season the team's albatross count will not be that bad.
Price and Eovaldi will each have 2 years left. Pedroia will have 1. Castillo will be off the books.
They will definitely be able to break the bank for Mookie - if that's what they want to do.
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.