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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Well he did play 1b. But later on he also wound up training velociraptors in a Cretaceous-themed zoo. So maybe his career path is best not duplicated...
    right. but was that due to some nefarious injury (physical or mental) from playing 1b defensively? or was it because he didn't have the offensive skillset and prowess to being with of someone like..oh...i don't know...JD?
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    It might also be noted that we had zero depth in the outfield, as was painfully highlighted by the recurring sight of Gorkys in the lineup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    It might also be noted that we had zero depth in the outfield, as was painfully highlighted by the recurring sight of Gorkys in the lineup.
    That's true, but saying that he was there because he's better than Gorkys is hardly a stirring recommendation.

    I have never understood why he didn't get a look at 1B during ST.
    Two things have been well established. The first is that he's NOT a good outfielder. He's "hidden" there only to keep his bat in the lineup.
    The second is that he wants to be involved in the defense. I'm not sure why he's intent on being on the field for defense - it could be to improve his value (which is NOT working out well!) or it could be that he's simply not as good defensively as he thinks he is. But.. whatever. If he's not good enough to be going to be used in the OF he's sure as Hell not going to be at C, 3B, SS, or 2B so where does that leave??

    I'm not saying that 1B should be his position to lose. I'm just saying that it's almost criminal to not see how he fares there. If he can't handle 1B then he can go back to being hidden in the outfield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S5Dewey View Post
    That's true, but saying that he was there because he's better than Gorkys is hardly a stirring recommendation.
    Agreed. What I'm really saying there is 'Thanks Dave!'
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    Maybe JD said he does not want to play 1B.

    Maybe Sox management doesn't view him as a possible capable 1Bman.

    Maybe they fear risk of injury.

    I think the Sox have had a bigger need with OF depth over 1B depth, so that alone could be the main reason.

    (I'm not for giving him a 1Bman's mitt next spring- at all!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Maybe JD said he does not want to play 1B.

    Maybe Sox management doesn't view him as a possible capable 1Bman.

    Maybe they fear risk of injury.

    I think the Sox have had a bigger need with OF depth over 1B depth, so that alone could be the main reason.

    (I'm not for giving him a 1Bman's mitt next spring- at all!)
    would be interesting to see historically who gets injured more frequently in the MLB - Corner Outfielder or First Baseman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    would be interesting to see historically who gets injured more frequently in the MLB - Corner Outfielder or First Baseman?
    It's not that simple. Placing and aged, sore-backed player in any new position is a gamble.

    BTW, I'm not for playing him in the OF either. he should DH only with maybe a handful of games in the OF at NL parks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    It's not that simple. Placing and aged, sore-backed player in any new position is a gamble.

    BTW, I'm not for playing him in the OF either. he should DH only with maybe a handful of games in the OF at NL parks.
    and i want him to see if he can play those same handful of games at 1b.
    also, waking up in the morning is a gamble for a sore-backed player.
    jogging to first base and catching a throw > sprinting 35' towards a wall to run down a flyball, twisting and firing the ball 200'.....
    first base is where old players go to die. if the board certified dumbest player on the Red Sox (christian vazquez) can play first base then i'm sure a smart guy like JD can figure out the footwork to play 10 games per season at the position.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    and i want him to see if he can play those same handful of games at 1b.
    also, waking up in the morning is a gamble for a sore-backed player.
    jogging to first base and catching a throw > sprinting 35' towards a wall to run down a flyball, twisting and firing the ball 200'.....
    first base is where old players go to die. if the board certified dumbest player on the Red Sox (christian vazquez) can play first base then i'm sure a smart guy like JD can figure out the footwork to play 10 games per season at the position.....
    I'm sure he can figure it out.

    The past two seasons the Red Sox had a 1B they liked, which was probably a big factor in why JD didn't play there. This offseason, maybe the want to see who will be at 1B before moving Martinez there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    and i want him to see if he can play those same handful of games at 1b.
    also, waking up in the morning is a gamble for a sore-backed player.
    jogging to first base and catching a throw > sprinting 35' towards a wall to run down a flyball, twisting and firing the ball 200'.....
    first base is where old players go to die. if the board certified dumbest player on the Red Sox (christian vazquez) can play first base then i'm sure a smart guy like JD can figure out the footwork to play 10 games per season at the position.....
    Yes, but all those things are unavoidable. Playing 1B rather than DH is a choice made and a bigger gamble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Yes, but all those things are unavoidable. Playing 1B rather than DH is a choice made and a bigger gamble.
    And putting him in the OF is an even bigger gamble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Yes, but all those things are unavoidable. Playing 1B rather than DH is a choice made and a bigger gamble.
    who says to have him play 1b instead of DHing?
    i am advocating 1b instead of OF.
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    I don't want JD playing in the field at all. I'm okay with a handful of games in the OF in NL parks, when needed.

    I do think there is less risk of him getting hurt playing a position he's played for more than a decade and maybe has 2-4 plays a game hit his way. I think, for him, 1B would be more dangerous.

    Plus, I don't want to do anything to distract him from his hitting, and that takes a lot of his time already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S5Dewey View Post
    And putting him in the OF is an even bigger gamble.
    Putting a SS/3Bman like HRam in the OF might be more dangerous than the 1B, but I don't think playing an OF'er in the OF 5 games a year is more dangerous than asking him to learn how to play 1B- a position that is involved in many more plays per game and is something very new to him.

    Plus, if JD is taught to play 1B, my guess is the plan would be for more than 5 games.
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    On the very low chance that Pedroia can DH a significant amount of games, we can worry about where to put JD.

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