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    2019-20 MLB Offseason Thread

    I figured we could use a thread like this for news worthy of a post but not necessarily its own thread...like...

    Mike Moustakas signing with the Reds for 4 years and $64 million (apparently to play second base). Raise your hand if you saw that coming.

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    I suggested we sign Moose instead of Moreland a couple years back.

    $64 is a lot of money. It looks like prices are not going down.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    So apparently Jose Peraza is a serious non-tender candidate now...

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    Zack Wheeler may be signing soon. His deal is expected to top the $100 million mark. White Sox are making a serious push.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    I wonder if GM's wouldn't be losing their minds over Wheeler if he wasn't a 1st round pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I wonder if GM's wouldn't be losing their minds over Wheeler if he wasn't a 1st round pick.
    Wheeler's career is remarkably similar to Eovaldi's, right down to the significant injury history.. And Eovaldi has only $51mill left plus represents the opportunity to dump an unproductive contract. Yet Wheeler is the Hottest New Thing while Eovaldi is completely unloved.

    I guess in this respect, Eovaldi is a bargain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Wheeler's career is remarkably similar to Eovaldi's, right down to the significant injury history.. And Eovaldi has only $51mill left plus represents the opportunity to dump an unproductive contract. Yet Wheeler is the Hottest New Thing while Eovaldi is completely unloved.

    I guess in this respect, Eovaldi is a bargain...
    Hard agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Wheeler's career is remarkably similar to Eovaldi's, right down to the significant injury history.. And Eovaldi has only $51mill left plus represents the opportunity to dump an unproductive contract. Yet Wheeler is the Hottest New Thing while Eovaldi is completely unloved.

    I guess in this respect, Eovaldi is a bargain...
    Except Wheeler has pitched 377.2 innings over the last 2 seasons. So he's got a nice Recency Effect going for him.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Except Wheeler has pitched 377.2 innings over the last 2 seasons. So he's got a nice Recency Effect going for him.
    Recency Bias.

    Since 2013, Wheeler has 749 IP and Eovaldi has 763 IP...

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    Cole Hamels is a Brave

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    wheeler to the phillies 5/$100MM
    other names i have posted under: none

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    wheeler to the phillies 5/$100MM
    Passan says it's about 5/118

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    my bad...i meant to add a "+" sign.
    this is a great pickup by the phils.
    a nice #2 to Nola and hurts a division rival at same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Cole Hamels is a Brave
    Wow, $18M/1.

    No way Porcello gets just $8M/1 as some said he might take.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Wheeler's career is remarkably similar to Eovaldi's, right down to the significant injury history.. And Eovaldi has only $51mill left plus represents the opportunity to dump an unproductive contract. Yet Wheeler is the Hottest New Thing while Eovaldi is completely unloved.

    I guess in this respect, Eovaldi is a bargain...
    Wheeler vs Eovaldi:

    Last 2 years:
    Wheeler (378 IP) 23-15 3.65 (107 ERA+, 1.19 WHIP, 3.6 K/BB)
    Eovaldi (179 IP) 8-8 4.63 (97 ERA+, 1.30 WHIP, 3.1 K/BB)

    Last 3 years:
    Wheeler (464 IP) 26-22 3.94 (100 ERA+, 1.27 WHIP, 3.1 K/BB)
    Eovaldi (179 IP) 8-8 4.63 (97 ERA+, 1.30 WHIP, 3.1 K/BB)

    Last 5 years:
    Wheeler (464 IP) 26-22 3.94 (100 ERA+, 1.27 WHIP, 3.1 K/BB)
    Eovaldi (458 IP) 31-19 4.52 (95 ERA+, 1.35 WHIP, 2.7 K/BB)


    Even the 5 year numbers are not really close, except for the IP. Still, if Wheeler is worth $118M/5, Eovaldi's deal looks like a bargain.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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