I would not be shocked if Benni is moved, to Offset a Higher priced guy.
I would not be shocked if Benni is moved, to Offset a Higher priced guy.
Are they?
It does make me wonder why they dealt Eric Lauer ($560K) for Zach Davies (proj 2020 salary $4mill). Or first year arb Hunter Renfroe (Proj salary $2.2mill) for Tommy Pham (projected salary ($8.6mill).
Maybe Preller doesn't know "shed" means "subtract"? Maybe he thinks he's already "shed" close to $10mill in salary, thinking "this is easy!"
Also, if Cano was tradable, Price is trdable. But it's a question of "should" over Eovaldi. Teams were lining up to pay Eovaldi very close to what Boston offered him one season ago. And while he was hurt, I really doubt any of them were surprised by it. It really just takes one GM. Hopefully not the one we just fired...
The Mariners reportedly want to move Dee Gordon to clear 2B for Shed Long (Or "Add Long", as AJ Preller calls him).
Gordon has an AAV of $10mill. If the Mariners would take Eovaldi for him, it's a move that would save the Sox $7.4mill towards the luxury tax, fill 2B, and merely bump up the date where the Sox need to find Eovaldi's replacement for the rotation.
Yes, harmony, I know the simulator would reject the move. But the simulator rejects most trades. Would DiPoto reject it?
Note: What has to be considered for Seattle is that Gordon isn't very good, but I greatly prefer him over Rougned Odor...
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Taking back Myers is "eating an exorbitant amount of money." We could even pay more towards it or add someone like Chavis or Walden.
I think you are right on the Kopech deal, but you may be selling Chavis & Duran short.
The Choo idea was to help balance the money Texas would be taking on with Eovaldi or Price with the idea that we'd trade Martinez, so he could DH. Yes, we likely don't get Kopech for JD, but we could get something and now be way under the tax line. This would allow Bloom to do his magic finding under-the-radar gems.
Right now, he has no wiggle room to sign even the lowest paid free agents or to trade for anyone making even $1M over min wage.
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Taking back Myers might represent one of the largest contract eats ever by the salary dumping team. When the Mariners traded Cano (owed $120mill) they took back Jay Bruce ($28mill) and Anthony Swarzak ($8.5mill) to balance out the deal. Myers is owed about double that total, while Price is owed less than Cano was.
And WTF is jacko's "What does this deal do for San Diego" talk? Seriously? Forget the crap about them trying to clear cash for Strasburg. It's clearly not happening, and they clearly are not even trying to do so.
Price might be expensive but dealing him for Myers means the Padres get a 2-2.5 fWAR pitcher for a net cost of $9mill per season. Basically it's like getting a slightly cheaper Kyle Gibson (2.6 fWAR season and got $31mill over 3 years). San Diego does immensely well in this deal. The question is - other than to get under the limit, why would Boston make this trade?
Cano was dealt because the Mets were involved and had a rookie GM. The Mets are being sold, so let’s see if they throw money around.
Also, Cano was coming off a good, albeit PED shortened, season. 3 WAR in 80 games. Pretty solid and clearly the Mets expected something from him rather than using their financial wealth to absorb the hit.
As for Preller, yes, he’s added some salary to help his squad, but why would he add $30 mil guaranteed and get limited return? If he’s going to spend $30 mil, he’d be better served breaking it up
It's not like we don't see the downside of Price. He's been showing something positive, too. 2017 was the only year, he gave us basically nothing
He's pitched 283 innings in the past 2 years at a 6.2 bWAR and 4.7 fWAR. While the IP'd are not great, they still have provided value, and I'm not even counting the 2018 playoff performances. (He's over 307 IP counting the playoffs.)
Your guy, James Paxton has about 310 IP the last 2 years combined at a 5.1 bWAR and 7.2 fWAR, and had a worse IP record, other than 2017, than Price beforehand. (Even 2017, Price gave us a 1.5 or 1.6 WAR.)
Taking on Myers's contract would offset enough of Price's deal to make it worth it for SD, despite what you think. Myers gives them very little. He's avergaed a 1.0 WAR the last 3 years.
This type of deal makes sense to both sides.
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“My guy” Paxton is on a 1 year deal at about 1/3 the AAV of Price.
Also, comparing the two is just stupid and you’re better than that. Price is on an untradeable contract, is 34 years old and is coming off wrist surgery on his throwing wrist. Paxton is on a one year contract, is 3 years younger and has outperformed Price the last 3 seasons. Price has averaged about 2WAR the last 3 years. Paxton has averaged nearly 4WAR per over the same span
My point was about value. Paxton, who you gushed over has done about the same as Price, who you act like Price is valueless. You claim he has to do something positive to be tradable. He's been Paxton for 2 years.
I'm fully aware of the contract disparity, but I also know how much Myers is owed. He's owed $61M over the next 3 years. That's 2/3 of what Price makes and all that SD cares about- that and gaining a 2-3 WAR SP'er for about $10M a year.
From our perspective, the luxury tax savings would be way more than $10-11M a year x 3. Myers's luxury tax hit is just $13.8M/yr. That means nothing to SD but a hell of a lot to us. We'd save over $17M a year on the lux tax.
It's not unreasonable to think SD would pay Price $36M/3 (the difference between him and Myers) and we'd take Myers to fill our 1B hole while saving $17M x 3 years on the tax budget.
It's a match made in heaven. (BTW, I also suggested we could kick in a little cash and still make out.)
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