2018 Red Sox cheating scandal

[a700hitter]

There's an * now for 2017 and 2018

And a bigger * for 1996-2000

[Bellhorn04]

Wait till all the facts come out please.

[a700hitter]

And the hypocrisy of MLB is that Clueless Joe who turned a blind eye to the rampant steroid abuse in his clubhouse is no a moral arbiter for MLB. What a joke!!

[bkzwhitestrican]

Wait till all the facts come out please.

But where is the fun in that???

[a700hitter]

Wait till all the facts come out please.

The facts are well-established for 1996-2000. The Yankee team was cheating like crazy.

[5GoldGloves:OF,75]

Come on now. Everyone knows that cheating is the only way anybody can possibly beat the Yankees, and that NY is the only team in the entire MLB that would never do anything to try to get an edge. Just ask Arod, Giambi, Petitte, Knoblach, Sheffield, Brown, Stanton (but never Roger... even though his teammates said they were enhanced by his own personal trainer).

[Bellhorn04]

The facts are well-established for 1996-2000. The Yankee team was cheating like crazy.

I was just referring to this developing story.

[notin]

SO let me get this straight. The sox cheated during the season, but not during the postseason? Really? Why would you cheat when it matters least and then pack up the operation when it matters most? 2018 was a cakewalk for Boston. They had a .703 win percentage at home, 6 games better than their away record. They wont the division going away. Why would you pack it up when it matters most? Makes a LOT of sense now.

The more I read into this, the more I wonder if Cora gets the biggest penalty of all. Two teams, two world series titles and a single coach tying them together with a similar cheating strategy. With baseball viewership on the decline, having fans thinking the teams are cheating to win doesn't help. 2 straight WS titles won with cheating is really bad PR for the league. And with the sox already being warned the year prior, the league is going to come down hard on them. Cora might get suspended for half or more of the season, which would probably prompt Henry to ax him. The sox will likely be looking at draft pick forfeitures as well and DD will likely have a show cause penalty to ever work again

It is possible they figured the postseason had too much scrutiny and they feared getting caught again. Or, since it’s always former players who rat these scandals out, they figured someone would talk eventually...

[jacksonianmarch]

The facts are well-established for 1996-2000. The Yankee team was cheating like crazy.

PEDs were pretty rampant and weren't expressly illegal 96-00. The Sox were warned prior to 2018 and did it anyway

[bkzwhitestrican]

It is possible they figured the postseason had too much scrutiny and they feared getting caught again. Or, since it’s always former players who rat these scandals out, they figured someone would talk eventually...

Per ESPN's coverage:

The use of the video room for sign stealing, which one Red Sox source described to The Athletic as "cheating," was a practice only during the 2018 regular season, according to the report.

Multiple Red Sox sources told The Athletic that the system was impossible to use during the postseason because Major League Baseball had in-person monitors stationed in all video replay rooms during the playoffs.

[Bellhorn04]

The story on MLBTR makes it clear that this is very different from what the Astros did.

[jad]

I must have made a mistake. I thought I was on the RedSox board. Not the Yankee board peopled exclusively by adolescent trolls.

[5GoldGloves:OF,75]

The big-market Red Sox were just lucky they could afford expensive technology. Unlike mid-market franchises that have to rely on trashcans.

We need new penalties to tax the rich, and use the fines to buy laptops, tablets and iphones for all the poor clubs. Then all the teams would have access to the same resources.

[notin]

The story on MLBTR makes it clear that this is very different from what the Astros did.

For starters, it was only possible when the Sox has a runner on 2b...

[jacksonianmarch]

The story on MLBTR makes it clear that this is very different from what the Astros did.

It is also far sneakier, since there isn't a audio cue. They did it with RISP and figured out the sign sequence, which was conveyed to the batter by the runner on second who got a hand signal from the dugout. The sox led the league in RISP in 2018. With a runner on second, or second and third, the sox hit .280 and .339 respectively, 3rd and 2nd best in baseball.