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    Dubon will be starting 2nd Baseman for the SF Giants this year.

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    Good article on the Rays Minor League system. Bloom has a huge hand in this. Also rest of AL East Rookies.
    https://www.milb.com/milb/news/2020-...es/c-312339950

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    BR released their annual farm rankings along with each team's top 10 prospects. Boston moved up to 26th (they were 30th last year I believe) with Jeter Downs being listed as their #1 prospect (ranked #68 in MLB). Casas is 2nd (#81 in MLB). If Verdugo was still eligible the Sox would probably be closer to 22nd-24th.

    1. SS Jeter Downs
    2. 3B Triston Casas
    3. RHP Bryan Mata
    4. 3B Bobby Dalbec
    5. RHP Noah Song
    6. OF Jarren Duran
    7. OF Gilberto Jimenez
    8. RHP Tanner Houck
    9. RHP Thad Ward
    10. LHP Jay Groome

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    Quote Originally Posted by OH FOY! View Post
    Good article on the Rays Minor League system. Bloom has a huge hand in this. Also rest of AL East Rookies.
    https://www.milb.com/milb/news/2020-...es/c-312339950
    Thanks!

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    The Rays have seven Top-100 prospects, the most of all 30 organizations. As exciting as that may be for Tampa Bay fans, it's worth noting McKay and Honeywell are the only two of the seven to reach Triple-A.
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    Keith Law's Top 100 ... https://theathletic.com/1627163/2020...ects-for-2020/

    70. Jeter Downs, 2B/SS, Boston Red Sox

    Downs was part of the big trade that sent Alex Wood and Yasiel Puig to the Reds a year ago, just a year and a half after the Reds took him with the 32nd overall pick in the 2018 draft. He took a big leap forward with the Dodgers last year, leading the California League in doubles (with 33) and homers (with 19) at age 20, even though he was promoted to Double A for the last two weeks of the season — and hit five more homers there. He’s really not a shortstop, but should be above-average at second base or third. And the power he’s shown now, especially after the Dodgers helped him better understand how to manipulate the barrel to drive the ball when he gets the right pitch, will play anywhere. Even after an awful April where he hit .213/.276/.371, he showed no panic at the plate and kept improving his approach, making swing adjustments as the season went on. He’d probably be a star if he could handle shortstop as an everyday player, but even at second or third he should be an above-average regular for a long time.
    90. Triston Casas, 1B, Boston Red Sox

    Casas was Boston’s first-rounder in 2018 out of a Florida high school and spent 2019 in Low A, where he hit .256/.350/.480 at age 19, good for fifth in all of Low A in slugging percentage. Casas has a solid swing where he can get to real power when he rotates his hips, but he can get locked up on pitches up the zone. He has a real two-strike approach, similar to Juan Soto’s, where he widens his stance substantially and chokes up on the bat to go for contact, which also reduces his power. He has a very good eye for his age, and his approach gets him into a lot of counts where he can hit for power, giving reason to think he’ll get to 30-plus homers in time. He started the season by trying to hit from an extreme crouch, resulting in a .208/.284/.364 line in April, but went on a tear after reverting to his usual stance, showing the power and patience required to profile as at least an above-average regular at first base.
    From the just missed group:

    Noah Song, RHP, Boston Red Sox

    Song was Boston’s fourth-round pick in 2019 out of the Naval Academy, but broke out in a big way after signing, sitting 95-96 with a better breaking ball and a new changeup that was already flashing plus. He was working in shorter stints, but the way the stuff ticked up, along with his history of strike-throwing, have jumped him to the front of the pack among Red Sox pitching prospects, with mid-rotation upside. As of this writing, he’s not going to pitch again until 2022 as he completes his two-year obligation to the U.S. Navy.

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    The org report https://theathletic.com/1609934/2020...sox-prospects/

    1. Jeter Downs, IF (#70 overall)

    2. Triston Casas, 1B (#90 overall)

    3. Noah Song, RHP (just missed top 100)

    4. Jason Groome, LHP

    Groome, their first-rounder from 2016, returned to action after missing nearly two years due to Tommy John surgery, back up to 95 mph but without the plus-plus curveball he’d shown before the operation. If that returns with more time, he’ll be back on track to be an above-average starter.
    5. Jarren Duran, OF

    Duran was Boston’s big breakout prospect for 2019, a seventh–rounder and an 80 runner who should end up an above-average centerfielder given more reps there. He’s a slap hitter now, with power he’s not going to reach with his current swing and setup; he crushed High A before a mid-year promotion to Double A, where he struggled at first but gradually started making more contact. He has solid fourth outfielder potential right now, but to be a regular he either has to get to more power or cut his strikeouts.
    6. Thad Ward, RHP

    Ward was their fifth-rounder in the same draft as Duran, 2018, and dominated High A as well before moving to Double A and continuing to miss bats. He’s 92-96 with sink and an out pitch in his slider, along with deception in the delivery.
    7. Bobby Dalbec, 3B

    Dalbec might end up a regular thanks to his absurd power and defense at third, where he’ll show a 55 glove and at least a 70 arm. There’s always going to be swing and miss here, maybe too much for him to be an everyday guy, but he deserves a lot of credit for cutting his strikeout rate as much as he has, to the point where we can even think of him as a regular.
    8. Gilberto Jimenez, OF

    Jimenez is an 80 runner with a high-contact approach that doesn’t generate any power; there should be some power in there and if he learns to stay back and drive the ball some more. He could end up a regular or better thanks to the speed and his defense in center.
    9. Bryan Mata, RHP

    Mata has premium stuff, up to 98, with a very tough delivery from a stiff landing to a late, slinging arm swing from a low slot. Left-handed hitters already get to him and I don’t think he can repeat that arm action enough for starter-level command.
    10. Tanner Houck, RHP

    Houck is a dominant reliever in the making with two pitches and an arm slot that is tough on right-handers. His changeup hasn’t come, and I don’t think he can turn a lineup over three times.
    11. Matthew Lugo, SS

    Boston’s second pick last year, taken late in the second round, Lugo is a toolsy shortstop from Puerto Rico who might have gone higher had he not scuffled in the high-profile Excellence Games tournament a month before the draft. He has a good line-drive swing for hard contact across the middle of the field, above-average speed, and good hands to stay at short.
    12. Chris Murphy, LHP

    Murphy has been up to 95, with an above-average curveball and feel for a changeup, but scouts felt he was mishandled at the University of San Diego, so he slipped to the sixth round in 2019. He took to the change in coaching quite well, cutting his walk rate from 15 percent in college to just over 5 percent in the New York-Penn League. He has fourth starter potential if he can keep this going.
    13. CJ Chatham, SS

    Chatham is a nice utility player who can handle shortstop and might hit for an empty .300 average in a good season, without power or OBP.
    14. Cam Cannon, 2B

    Their first pick last year, also in the second round, Cannon is a polished bat from the University of Arizona who swung and missed more last summer than expected, partly because the Sox are trying to work with him to stop loading so much over his back leg. He’s going to work at second base, which is his best chance for a skill position.
    15. Andrew Politi, RHP

    The Sox found the perfect way to help Politi, their 15th-round pick from 2018; his stuff took a jump and pitched better in longer outings, so they moved him to the rotation, where he was close to unhittable. He’s at 94-96 mph with an above-average breaking ball, good deception in the delivery, and better control when he starts. He’ll need a better third pitch to end up in the rotation.
    16. Ryan Zeferjahn, RHP

    Zeferjahn has an elite fastball but lacks average command or a quality second pitch, so he’ll probably move to the bullpen in short order.
    17. Nick Decker, OF

    Decker played in just two games in his first summer, so 2019 was really his debut, and he was just OK for short-season Lowell at age 19, showing power and a little patience but striking out in 30 percent of his plate appearances. Boston took him out of a New Jersey private school, so he’s behind the curve (pun intended) when it comes to picking up spin.
    18. Chih-Jung Liu, RHP

    Liu signed for $750,000 this offseason, has hit 100 mph for scouts and topped out at 98 in a tournament this past fall. He took two years off from pitching to recover from heavy use when he was younger, but the time off helped. He gets on top of the ball well and has a promising circle-change and a show-me curveball.
    19. Conor Wong, C/IF

    A utility man with a different profile, Wong is capable of catching on a semi-regular basis and has experience at second and third. He strikes out too much to be a regular even behind the plate but has value in his flexibility and power.
    20. Brayan Bello, RHP

    Bello gets guys out with average stuff, working in the low 90s with a fringy breaking ball and change. He struck out a man an inning in Low A but will be hard-pressed to repeat that at higher levels without better stuff.
    Other notables

    They took infielder Jonathan Arauz in the Rule 5 draft; he’s a dynamic player with an idea at the plate and bat speed, but his production has lagged because he’s always been young for his levels and he’s missed time due to a suspension for a positive test for a banned stimulant. … Right-hander Alex Scherff had a disappointing year overall despite some dominant outings; he’s up to 98, but inconsistent within starts and from game to game, and still lacks an average third pitch to go with his fastball and changeup. … Their third-round pick from 2018, Durbin Feltman, was supposed to be a quick-to-the-majors college reliever, but we all know how often that works out, right? Feltman walked 31 in 51-1/3 innings in Double-A and regressed as the season went on. He can show two above-average to plus pitches but has trouble getting lefties out.
    Sleeper

    I liked their 2019 draft quite a bit; Lugo has the best upside of their lower-tier prospects, while Murphy looks like he might have been a steal in the sixth round. I’d give Lugo the best chance to turn into a top 100 prospect a year from now.

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    Weird that he's so down on Mata. Speier and SoxProspects love that guy.

    Also, I'm not sure I've ever heard Andrew (AJ) Politi's name before. He's only ranked 52 on SoxProspects. He was pretty good after mid June.
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    6/15/19 - end of season for Politi:
    WHIP 0.86
    ERA 1.48
    K/9 11.62
    BB/9 3.14
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    6/15/19 - end of season for Politi:
    WHIP 0.86
    ERA 1.48
    K/9 11.62
    BB/9 3.14
    Law tends to ding a lot if he doesn't see starting pitcher upside. If Mata's arm slot is creating a Justin Masterson like split problem, then he can only be a reliever, though possibly a good one.

    His intro/overall impression of SOX system

    Years of drafting at the end of the first round, or after the first round entirely, have taken a toll on the Red Sox system, although they just traded for their new No. 1 prospect and have found several legitimate prospects beyond the third round in the last few drafts, helping bulk up a system that would otherwise be thin.
    Given the handicap of draft position, Dombrowski's team actually did a good job there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk7326 View Post
    Given the handicap of draft position, Dombrowski's team actually did a good job there.
    Who woulda thunk it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Who woulda thunk it?
    We were also penalized one year for IFA signings.

    I have said all along, within the context of our draft choices and penalties, DD did well with his picks.

    However, our farm still sucked after he left.
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    Honestly, the scouting department has been pretty good for a while.
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    ranked the #RedSox system 20th. That feels right, although saying anything beyond that would be outside my expertise.
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