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Thread: Mookie Betts and David Price have been traded to Dodgers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Cook View Post
    Mookie who? Old news time to move on!

    Yup. The only time Mookie's name should come up on this forum is when the SOX play the Dodgers, which won't be for a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Seems like a reasonable deal. Will Mookie sign an extension will soon be a new story, of course.
    Look what this prescient guy said right after the trade!
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    The day the music died.
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    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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    Jeter Downs was DFA. This trade gets worse and worse…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonbay44 View Post
    Jeter Downs was DFA. This trade gets worse and worse…
    I'm not sure the trade is worse because of the DFA. We already knew Downs sucked.

    Downs - bad
    Wong - backup catcher at best
    Verdugo - turned into LF only defender with average bat

    This is not an adequate haul for Betts even if you are getting salary relief.
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    Fingers crossed that Wong makes the trade look a little better.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I'm not sure the trade is worse because of the DFA. We already knew Downs sucked.

    Downs - bad
    Wong - backup catcher at best
    Verdugo - turned into LF only defender with average bat

    This is not an adequate haul for Betts even if you are getting salary relief.
    There are no good comps though, really.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Fuck this shit.
    This trade was bad from day one.
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    Fangraphs WAR

    Since 2020

    Mookie

    13.2 (8th in MLB)

    Mookie return

    5.1

    Difference

    8.1 (that’s basically Teoscar Hernandez during that time)


    Should have just re-signed him. I think this trade forever changed my view of this ownership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    @itsbrianbarrett
    Fangraphs WAR

    Since 2020

    Mookie

    13.2 (8th in MLB)

    Mookie return

    5.1

    Difference

    8.1 (that’s basically Teoscar Hernandez during that time)


    Should have just re-signed him. I think this trade forever changed my view of this ownership.
    I agree with your statement.

    As for the verdict on the trade, we can't leave out the differences in payroll costs.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonbay44 View Post
    Jeter Downs was DFA. This trade gets worse and worse…
    Second paragraph in Bloom's bio: In the first major move of his short-lived career as CBO, he engineered what he mistakenly thought was a trade of Hall of Famer for Hall of Famer... however, as Chaim later excused, "Actually, I was formulating a new calculus -- making changes for Red Sox fans that both exorcised old demons and repossessed them as allies: Mookie (as in Wilson) for Jeter (as in personalized Fox Network TV cam that follows fist pumps on the diamond, in the dugout, clubhouse, on the team bus, charter, and private dance cubicles for gentlemen everywhere )."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I agree with your statement.

    As for the verdict on the trade, we can't leave out the differences in payroll costs.
    The difference in fWAR value is about $64M less the savings from Price, I guess.
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    The money would have mattered if the Sox used it rather than pocketed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I'm not sure the trade is worse because of the DFA. We already knew Downs sucked.

    Downs - bad
    Wong - backup catcher at best no
    Verdugo - turned into LF only defender with average bat

    This is not an adequate haul for Betts even if you are getting salary relief.
    They were never c going to get an adequate haul. How many superstar players traded in their final year got back a haul? I’m sure there are some, but not as many as you think…

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    They were never c going to get an adequate haul. How many superstar players traded in their final year got back a haul? I’m sure there are some, but not as many as you think…
    Betts may be the best player of this generation not named Trout. Letting him go and not getting anything back substantial is embarrassing. Think of all the deadline deals where decent prospects are obtained.
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