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    Hire Cora and agive him a raise

    Immediately

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    Sounds good, Mario.

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    Joe Kelly explains why he's still mad at the Astros -- and it has nothing to do with video or trash cans:

    https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red...astros-players

    Some choice quotes: "The people who took the fall for what happened is nonsense," Kelly told Stripling. "Yes, everyone is involved. But the way that [sign-stealing system] was run over there was not from coaching staff. ... They're not the head boss in charge of that thing. It's the players. ... When you taint someone's name to save your own name, this is one of the worst things that you could probably do. ... That really friggin' bugs me. I think I'll be irritated forever."

    "Maybe they have called [Cora] and said, 'Hey, I'm sorry,' " Kelly said. "... If they had said, 'Hey, I'm super-scared, I didn't know what to do, I didn't want to lose money, I had to rat.' ... Grow a pair of balls and say that."

    As a pitcher, especially of a team that lost in the postseason to the infamous '17 champs, you'd think Kelly would be more bitter about Houston's dastardly machinations. That he's not is perhaps a concession to pervading baseball culture.

    Despite what it says in Manfred's official report, it's becoming more apparent that the true "mastermind" in this whole "scandal" was Manfred, himself.
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    Hiring Cora back would make me seriously reconsider being a Red Sox fan
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    Hiring Cora back would make me seriously reconsider being a Red Sox fan
    Even if current and ex-players continue to forgive him for being a scapegoat?

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    I'm with Joe Kelly on this one. The players ratted out the coaches. And Cora just graciously took the fall. He's smart, articulate, always willing to talk about baseball history including his own, treats everyone with respect--always fun to listen to even for those daily pre-game interviews. Can't wait to have him back. As for the Astros' players--if someone offered me immunity to rat out my boss or my associates, I really can't see what's so difficult about saying "I don't know nothing about none of that!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    Even if current and ex-players continue to forgive him for being a scapegoat?
    Varying levels of guilt is still guilt. He did something wrong, and I wouldn't want him associated with my team going forward. Same goes for Altuve, Bregman, Correa, and Springer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Varying levels of guilt is still guilt. He did something wrong, and I wouldn't want him associated with my team going forward. Same goes for Altuve, Bregman, Correa, and Springer
    And sin is sin, so we should all just rot in hell. (Good thing wife-beating and cheating on taxes and speeding and taking pictures of your friends boinking a drunk stranger and looking at pornography and cheating on your wife and lying to your family and having "impure thoughts" are things that MLB players and fans never are guilty of.)
    "Fans have become more entitled than anything. So they're starting to question our motives for the game, or how we approach the game. The ones that do question -- like who are you? Just shut up and watch the game tonight." --Kevin Durant on players' lack of effort in regular season games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jad View Post
    And sin is sin, so we should all just rot in hell. (Good thing wife-beating and cheating on taxes and speeding and taking pictures of your friends boinking a drunk stranger and looking at pornography and cheating on your wife and lying to your family and having "impure thoughts" are things that MLB players and fans never are guilty of.)

    Stop with the “cast the first stone argument.” Is it too much to expect professional athletes and coaches to not cheat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Stop with the “cast the first stone argument.” Is it too much to expect professional athletes and coaches to not cheat?
    It's not that simple. Cheating of various sorts has been part of baseball forever.
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    I just have one question. How is this crap team RR's fault?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPLENDIDSPLINTER View Post
    I just have one question. How is this crap team RR's fault.
    It isn't.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    It's not that simple. Cheating of various sorts has been part of baseball forever.
    They don't even use the c-word, since "stealing" has always been an actual legal term and concept in the sport. Pitchers and catchers and defenders have secret signs to deceive batters and baserunners... who have secret signs of their own... as coaches and managers on both sides spend bad portions of every game sending signs while trying to intercept opposition signs (and they all know the absurdity of sudden MLB decrees that they're only allowed to "steal" in certain ways).

    Nobody is really sorry for doing what they've always done as ballplayers since at least high school -- except PR departments that suddenly have to answer to mass media that never played the sport at an advanced level that panders to "shocked" portions of fandom that never played the game at advanced levels.

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    Anything that is done with an intent to break or manipulate the rules is something that I personally cannot look past. That's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Anything that is done with an intent to break or manipulate the rules is something that I personally cannot look past. That's just me.
    I totally respect your stance. But it has to be hard being a fan of a sport where base stealers try to get a better chance of stealing a base by stealing the signs of pitchers and catchers, who try to steal the signs of coaches to base stealers, to get a better chance of stealing an out.

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