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Thread: A Realistic View at 2021: Part I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I don't necessarily disagree with you. The real question is the methodology they're using to value some of these players with little or no MLB numbers to base on. How much weight gets placed on what?

    With Houck, you would think his speculative value would have taken a leap.
    It is possible Houck’s value changes for the better. As far as I can tell, they update players all the time and it doesn’t happen all at once with some mass update. As player projections for performance and salary change, they use them to create new values.

    When that website first started, they were updating multiple times per year including in August/ September, which they stopped when one annoying poster named Notin told them to just skip late season updates for periods when trades weren’t allowed anyway and go right to off-season values...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I don't necessarily disagree with you. The real question is the methodology they're using to value some of these players with little or no MLB numbers to base on. How much weight gets placed on what?

    With Houck, you would think his speculative value would have taken a leap.
    https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/...inor-leaguers/

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    Thanks, harmony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I don't necessarily disagree with you. The real question is the methodology they're using to value some of these players with little or no MLB numbers to base on. How much weight gets placed on what?

    With Houck, you would think his speculative value would have taken a leap.
    They obviously work on projected performance and projected or known salary.

    When I look to suggest trades on that site, I look at trying to even out the value by giving away players I think are rated higher than I value them.

    I'm not saying the site is perfect.It is far from perfect, but I also think Chavis is duplicated value with Dalbec being better.

    (I have actually suggested some trades involving Dalbec and us keeping Chavis (maybe sign a Moreland type for dirt cheap).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Thanks, harmony.
    I still can't figure out why Chatham is at 4.9.
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    The BTV site approved this trade:

    Dalbec & CHatham

    to ATL for

    Inciarte +$2M
    Langeliers (good catching prospect)
    Wright
    Wilson

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    The BTV site approved this trade:

    Dalbec & CHatham

    to ATL for

    Inciarte +$2M
    Langeliers (good catching prospect)
    Wright
    Wilson

    Pull. That. Trigger! (with a gun that shoots out a flag that says "Bang"; I'm a hippie)

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    Happy
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Happy
    Thanksgiving!
    Enjoy yours with family and friends but take care, we are almost through this terrible pandemic. We have a takeout Thanksgiving dinner which we will share with my 84 year old brother and his wife. Don't stay up late thinking up trades. What will be will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldtimer View Post
    Enjoy yours with family and friends but take care, we are almost through this terrible pandemic. We have a takeout Thanksgiving dinner which we will share with my 84 year old brother and his wife. Don't stay up late thinking up trades. What will be will be.
    Thanks, oldtimer.

    We will be having a small gathering outside at our daughter's fiance's home. It's been our "bubble" for months, but even then, this is just the 4th time we have gotten together since March. We've done nothing else, in terms of group settings.

    Although it's hard for me to go a day without thinking of the Sox, today I will try.

    Have a great day with your brother and his wife.
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    Arihara to be posted. Does hang’em chiam have any interest in signing him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Cook View Post
    Arihara to be posted. Does hang’em chiam have any interest in signing him?
    What's with the "Hang 'em"?

    Seriously.I don't get it.
    Last edited by moonslav59; 11-27-2020 at 03:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    What's with the "Hang 'em"?

    Seriously.I don't get it.
    “Hang ‘Em High”. Reference to the old Clint Eastwood movie.

    But it doesn’t work as well in print...

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    What's with the "Hang 'em"?

    Seriously.I don't get it.
    And it doesn't help matters that he keeps misspelling Chaim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    “Hang ‘Em High”. Reference to the old Clint Eastwood movie.

    But it doesn’t work as well in print...
    I know the movie, but how does it relate to any GM, let alone Bloom?

    I understood the "desperate Dave" nickname, but this one needs explanation.
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