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Thread: A Realistic View at 2021: Part I

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    That would be $6M more added to the spending budget but one more rotation slot to fill.
    And the anticipation is that you could sign a Perez replacement for less than $6M. Maybe even get a guy on a multi year deal for less than 6M?
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    More shocking is that the Indians did not (try to?) find a taker for Hand. I would think he was very tradable. Waiving/releasing him just saves them $1 million.

    Are some teams going to be that strapped for cash?
    Yup, kinda weird. Maybe the Cleveland Baseball Team is currently bouncing checks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    I would say the chances of Perez' option being picked up are going down....
    The Perez market is crashing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    More shocking is that the Indians did not (try to?) find a taker for Hand. I would think he was very tradable. Waiving/releasing him just saves them $1 million.

    Are some teams going to be that strapped for cash?
    Hand him over. Hand was 16-for-16 in save opportunities.

    Barnes was 9-for-12! Blowing 25% of your saves seems like 50% to fans (I still have PTSD from a Toronto game in '19, when he was hitting guys and bouncing pitches to the backstop)... on a decent team, that's like a blown save every other week. And then you don't have a decent team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    Hand him over. Hand was 16-for-16 in save opportunities.

    Barnes was 9-for-12! Blowing 25% of your saves seems like 50% to fans (I still have PTSD from a Toronto game in '19, when he was hitting guys and bouncing pitches to the backstop)... on a decent team, that's like a blown save every other week. And then you don't have a decent team.
    Except that not every blown save results in a loss....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Yup, kinda weird. Maybe the Cleveland Baseball Team is currently bouncing checks?
    If Hand clears waivers, that screams volumes about the free agent market this offseason....

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Except that not every blown save results in a loss....
    It still blows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    If Hand clears waivers, that screams volumes about the free agent market this offseason....
    If he gets past the Sox, I'm going to believe that the Sox are going to replicate 2020 next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    If he gets past the Sox, I'm going to believe that the Sox are going to replicate 2020 next year.
    I don't understand -- MLB trade rumors list him as a free agent. Or are there waiver claim protocols, like Texas and Detroit get first-Hand accountability?

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    Will beni take the tampon out and play in 2021?

    The only thing we will be rooting for is the yankees to lose in the postseason again next year.
    WELCOME TO THE CLIFF! (it's real)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    Will beni take the tampon out and play in 2021?

    The only thing we will be rooting for is the yankees to lose in the postseason again next year.
    WELCOME TO THE CLIFF! (it's real)
    This little cliff is no match for Bloom.
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    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    If he gets past the Sox, I'm going to believe that the Sox are going to replicate 2020 next year.
    Well, since no team traded for him, maybe teams don’t want him at that price and are willing to see what he gets as a free agent (and one without a Qualifying Offer)...

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    Just saw an article on the free agent class
    Jackie Bradley #38 they predict he goes back to Sox at reduced salary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slasher9 View Post
    Will beni take the tampon out and play in 2021?

    The only thing we will be rooting for is the yankees to lose in the postseason again next year.
    WELCOME TO THE CLIFF! (it's real)
    More sexism. Great!
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    I’d have to believe a one year deal with Brad Hand is really tempting. $10 mil for an elite closer is not bad. Heck, you pick him up, use him for half a season, then deal him for major prospects at the deadline, when covid should be mitigated with a vaccine and revenues start rushing back in.

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