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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    30M - 7 Kiké - 10 Richards = 6M reliever + 3M reliever + 4M CF/2B
    The puzzle is how we can be one of the teams still linked to Ozuna, if JH doesn't want to go over the $210 M.
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    Garrett Richards, baby!!! 2-2, coming off an ACL injury. Doesn't get any better than that! We may as well start resting players for the post season now!
    "Fans have become more entitled than anything. So they're starting to question our motives for the game, or how we approach the game. The ones that do question -- like who are you? Just shut up and watch the game tonight." --Kevin Durant on players' lack of effort in regular season games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    The puzzle is how we can be one of the teams still linked to Ozuna, if JH doesn't want to go over the $210 M.
    Maybe they will go over?

    Also we don’t know what was deferred on Kike’s deal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Maybe they will go over?

    Also we don’t know what was deferred on Kike’s deal...
    The deferred money should not impact the luxury tax calculation.

    It's the guaranteed money divided by the guaranteed years (adjusted later if options are exercised).

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    Quote Originally Posted by harmony View Post
    MLB Trade Rumors churns out trade rumors about Pittsburgh righthander Jameson Taillon, an occasional target of forum posters:

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/...k.html#respond

    A trade of outfielder Gilberto Jimenez and righthanders Bryan Mata and Ryan Zeferjahn for Taillon, second baseman Adam Frazier and reliever Richard Rodriguez would be perfectly balanced, according to Baseball Trade Values.

    Those Red Sox prospects are precisely the types the Pirates would target ... and precisely the prospects the Red Sox can ill-afford to lose as the Sox restock the farm system.

    On the plus side, Taillon, Frazer and Rodriguez are projected to earn only a combined $7 million this year.
    I must have suggested two dozen trades on BTV involving the Sox and Pitt- most involving Taillon- many with Frazier or Stallings with a third team involved and Vaz going there.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    The puzzle is how we can be one of the teams still linked to Ozuna, if JH doesn't want to go over the $210 M.
    Maybe we trade Beni and go over by a little.

    Maybe we trade Beni & Eovaldi or Vaz.

    Maybe the rumors are wrong.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Hate this signing as a Yankee fan. Richards is a good pitcher who made terrible decisions. He tore his UCL, opted against surgery, did the PRP route, wasted a year then got TJS, had some complications and finally came back chucking heat last year. This guy has as good a chance as any to be healthy and dominate. This is a good move, and the option for 22 will allow the Sox to keep him if it works out and utilize him when they might be better

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Maybe we trade Beni and go over by a little.

    Maybe we trade Beni & Eovaldi or Vaz.

    Maybe the rumors are wrong.
    Payroll looks inflated due to $30M in TWO non performing contracts. It jumps to $55M if you throw in Chris Sale. I'm always optimistic but for Sale, I'll believe it when I see it approach. Who really know? He could suffer one set back that will push him back 4 weeks. At that point you have to ask if it's worth it to jeopardize 2022 season and beyond.

    I rather always throw little more money for shorter years.

    There's no point in going over by 'little'. Might as well be $19,999.999 over the limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I must have suggested two dozen trades on BTV involving the Sox and Pitt- most involving Taillon- many with Frazier or Stallings with a third team involved and Vaz going there.
    One or two years of Christian Vazquez probably does not fit within Pittsburgh's dreamed-for competitive window. The Pirates would likely target the top prospects in a pedestrian Red Sox farm system.

    Too steep a price.

    Or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    The puzzle is how we can be one of the teams still linked to Ozuna, if JH doesn't want to go over the $210 M.
    Ozuna made $18 million last year when he led the NL in HRs, RBIs and hit .338. After a season like that -- and after Springer just signed for $25M per -- it's more than impractical to imagine Bloom burning up so much Mookie money on basically a DH... especially one who wants a four-year deal.

    If Boston inked Marcell Ozuna for One Hundred Million Dollars -- or even 4 years for $80 million -- this forum would implode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    Hate this signing as a Yankee fan. Richards is a good pitcher who made terrible decisions. He tore his UCL, opted against surgery, did the PRP route, wasted a year then got TJS, had some complications and finally came back chucking heat last year. This guy has as good a chance as any to be healthy and dominate. This is a good move, and the option for 22 will allow the Sox to keep him if it works out and utilize him when they might be better
    jacksonianmarch nails it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gojohn99 View Post
    It's going to be another long season.... Kiki Hernandez, Hunter Renfroe, Martin Perez maybe Garret Richards I see we are bargain shopping again
    Bloom’s off-season has been a step above Dumpster Diving, at full retail prices.
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    From the San Diego Union-Tribune's Kevin Acee: "Another source said Profar’s choices had been narrowed to the Padres and Red Sox before he made the decision to return to San Diego."

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...far-free-agent

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    Ozuna made $18 million last year when he led the NL in HRs, RBIs and hit .338. After a season like that -- and after Springer just signed for $25M per -- it's more than impractical to imagine Bloom burning up so much Mookie money on basically a DH... especially one who wants a four-year deal.

    If Boston inked Marcell Ozuna for One Hundred Million Dollars -- or even 4 years for $80 million -- this forum would implode.
    Not me.

    Now if they signed him for 6 years $150 mill, I’d call Bloom on it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    The puzzle is how we can be one of the teams still linked to Ozuna, if JH doesn't want to go over the $210 M.
    Good question.
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