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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    a) Only one team can win it all. You also spend to entertain the fans a bit, no? They pay the bills, after all.
    b) Charlie Morton got $15 million, arguably an overpay by current standards. If we signed him and traded him at the deadline he would cost us about $10 million, putting us over the tax threshold. And what if he flops.
    Also, he DID ACQUIRE one year guys. Richard, Perez, Ottavino. Just because he did not acquire them all doesn’t mean he didn’t do it.

    And was 38yo Charlie Morton really going to sign with a rebuilding team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    In fact, the Red Sox took a bigger step down (.148 point drop on winning pct.) from 2018 to 2019 than they did from 2019 to 2020 (.119 point drop in winning percentage)...
    That is really an unfair comparison. 108 wins gives you a lot more room to fall than 84 wins does. The drop in winning percentage is not a good way to look at it. However , I am by no means defending Dombrowski's inertia during the 2018 - 2019 off season. That was the beginning of the decline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgalehouse View Post
    That is really an unfair comparison. 108 wins gives you a lot more room to fall than 84 wins does. The drop in winning percentage is not a good way to look at it. However , I am by no means defending Dombrowski's inertia during the 2018 - 2019 off season. That was the beginning of the decline.
    That was the point. That the decline started before Bloom even got here...

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    Calm down. I've been tamed.

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    The Red Sox outrighted Marcus Walden to Triple-A after the right-hander cleared waivers, and Walden is remaining in Boston’s big league spring camp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    The Red Sox outrighted Marcus Walden to Triple-A after the right-hander cleared waivers, and Walden is remaining in Bostonís big league spring camp.
    Big surprise!

    (Sarcasm alert)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    The Red Sox outrighted Marcus Walden to Triple-A after the right-hander cleared waivers, and Walden is remaining in Boston’s big league spring camp.
    Gotta keep some of The Fungibles around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Gotta keep some of The Fungibles around.
    I'd keep all those AAAA guys around. Especially a guy like Walden who did have a pretty decent stretch at one point. Maybe he just flames out and his career ends in WOO this season? Maybe he become serviceable and gets another shot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Gotta keep some of The Fungibles around.
    He will only help out more there by artificially inflating the statistics of opposing prospects...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    He will only help out more there by artificially inflating the statistics of opposing prospects...
    My guess is he sees action for us at some point this year.
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    He's nice AAAA depth.

    He put up decent numbers over 2 seasons, so we know he can get it done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    He's nice AAAA depth.

    He put up decent numbers over 2 seasons, so we know he can get it done.
    He lost velo last year. If it doesn't come back, he's toast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    My guess is he sees action for us at some point this year.
    Yes, he very likely will. As will a few other AAAA arms. The actual prospects who se time will come from a very limited set that includes (but is not necessarily limited to) Houck, Mata, Seabold, Bazardo, and Feltman...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    He lost velo last year. If it doesn't come back, he's toast.
    A lot of pitchers lost velo last year, which might have been a result of a truncated spring training with limited work followed by regular season with limited appearances...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    A lot of pitchers lost velo last year, which might have been a result of a truncated spring training with limited work followed by regular season with limited appearances...
    I agree. It's why it's good that he's still around. Decent chance for a bounce back. However, he's on the wrong side of 30 and won't be getting any better here on out.
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