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    Quote Originally Posted by A Red Sox fan named Hugh View Post
    Defense seems to be the Achilles heal of Yorke. If this dude was a good defender he might be in #1 prospect of baseball territory, the man can hit.
    If only the Sox had history with moving a pure hitter from 2b to LF. Ah well, nevertheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    If only the Sox had history with moving a pure hitter from 2b to LF. Ah well, nevertheless.
    You mean like Wil Cordero? Or Chico Walker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    You mean like Wil Cordero? Or Chico Walker?
    Cordero was more of a SS than a 2B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Cordero was more of a SS than a 2B.
    You wouldn’t say that if you ever saw him play SS…

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    You wouldn’t say that if you ever saw him play SS…
    Can't say I watched many Expos games in 92-95. Negative TZ wherever he played except 1b. Yuck.

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    If Yorke cannot be a reliable defender, he drops a fair amount as he becomes more of a utility or COF guy. Reminds me of a guy the Yanks had named Nick Solak
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    If Yorke cannot be a reliable defender, he drops a fair amount as he becomes more of a utility or COF guy. Reminds me of a guy the Yanks had named Nick Solak
    If the guy can hit, and it seems like he can, he's an easy candidate for LF or DH not utility.
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    It's not a terrible comparison, but that's not to say Yorke will turn into Solak.

    Yorke in low A as a 19 year old: 323/413/500, 10 HR
    Solak in low A as a 21 year old: 321/412/421, 3 HR

    Yorke had more HR's in 2021 in A ball than Solak did in 2 years (including an age 22 season in A+).

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    If the guy can hit, and it seems like he can, he's an easy candidate for LF or DH not utility.
    Guys who can play the position but not well usually end up as utility guys, COFers and DH's. Helps the team out if Yorke can handle 2b, 3b in a pinch and not be absolutely abysmal
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    Guys who can play the position but not well usually end up as utility guys, COFers and DH's. Helps the team out if Yorke can handle 2b, 3b in a pinch and not be absolutely abysmal
    He can probably play FT LF and not embarrass himself, especially with a team like the Sox, who play half their games in Fenway
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    Another solid start from Kutter Crawford last night in the DR. 3 IP, 3 H, 1 R (0 ER), 2 BB, 5 K. Included getting out of a bases loaded jam with Ks of Emilio Bonifacio and Chris Owings.

    Now at 21.1 IP, 0.42 ERA, 23 K, 8 BB for the winter.

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    Where do these prospects fit in the rankings?

    David Hamilton and Alex Binelas

    soxprospects.com

    1. Casas
    2. Mayer
    3. Yorke
    4. Duran
    5. Downs
    6. Bello
    7. Jordan
    8. Groome
    9. Jimenez
    10. Mata
    11. Seabold
    12. Gonzalez
    13. Winckowski
    14. Murphy
    15. Bleis
    16. Wong
    17. Walter
    18. Song
    19. Ward
    20. McDonough
    21. Bonaci
    22. R Hern
    23. Rafaela
    24. Paulino
    25. Crawford
    26. Lugo
    27. Hickey


    Last edited by moonslav59; 12-03-2021 at 02:27 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Where do these prospects fit in the rankings?

    David Hamilton and Alex Binelas

    soxprospects.com

    1. Casas
    2. Mayer
    3. Yorke
    4. Duran
    5. Downs
    6. Bello
    7. Jordan
    8. Groome
    9. Jimenez
    10. Mata
    11. Seabold
    12. Gonzalez
    13. Winckowski
    14. Murphy
    15. Bleis
    16. Wong
    17. Walter
    18. Song
    19. Ward
    20. McDonough
    21. Bonaci
    22. R Hern
    23. Rafaela
    24. Paulino
    25. Crawford
    26. Lugo
    27. Hickey


    I'd put Binelas after Winckowski at 14 (MLB Pipeline has him at 16).
    Hamilton would be after McDonough at 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I'd put Binelas after Winckowski at 14 (MLB Pipeline has him at 16).
    Hamilton would be after McDonough at 22.
    Sounds about right.

    BTV has these values:
    50 Casas
    48 Mayer
    22 Yorke
    12 Downs
    10 Bello
    6.0 Mata
    5.4 Hamilton
    4.9 Binelas

    4.8 Winckowski
    3.9 Gonazalez
    3.5 Seabold
    3.0 McDonough
    3.0 Rosario
    2.9 Groome

    (Duran is 20 and Whitlock is 17.)

    Last edited by moonslav59; 12-03-2021 at 03:56 PM.
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    Sox Prospects by Position (soxprospects.com ranking)

    P Bello 6, Groome 8, Mata 10, Seabold 11, Winckowski 13, W Gonzalez 12
    Murphy 14, B Walter 17, Song 18, Ward 19, Crawford 25, Bazardo29, Santos 31
    Wu-Yelland 32, Feltman 34, Drohan 35, Blalock 36, Chih-Jung 38, Wallace 40, German 48

    C Wong 16, R Hernandez 22, Hickey 27, Lira 30
    1B Casas 1, Kavadas 42
    2B Yorke 3, Downs 5, Binelas ??, Cannon 41
    3B Jordan 7, Paulion 24, Howlett 46, Potts 49
    SS Mayer 2, Hamilton ??, Bonaci 21, Lugo 26, Koss 33, Fitzgerald 37
    LF Duran 4,
    CF Jimenez 9, Bleis 15, Rafaela 23, Lopez 39, Rosario 45
    RF McDonough 20, Decker 28
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