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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    Judging by this review, we'd better protect Bazardo... if only to prevent Cashie and the Rays from nabbing him.
    I'm fine with keeping Mazza, but we should protect Bazardo. There are still plenty of scrubs to DFA in order to keep Bazardo.
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    Rosters are 26, now, but is it possible nobody would not select Groome and have to keep him on their 26 man roster all year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Rosters are 26, now, but is it possible nobody would not select Groome and have to keep him on their 26 man roster all year?
    I bet a team like Pittsburgh would be all over that move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I'm fine with keeping Mazza, but we should protect Bazardo. There are still plenty of scrubs to DFA in order to keep Bazardo.
    I agree that it would be easy to keep both. I'd rather have them over a guy like Marcus Wilson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I bet a team like Pittsburgh would be all over that move.
    True. Not worth the risk.

    Besides, who do we have that needs to be kept on the 40 man so desperately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I'm fine with keeping Mazza, but we should protect Bazardo. There are still plenty of scrubs to DFA in order to keep Bazardo.
    I don't see it coming down to "Mazza vs Bazardo" when the Sox have so many other easily replaceable players on the 40-man roster. Mazza is really just the best of the Replaceables...

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    True. Not worth the risk.

    Besides, who do we have that needs to be kept on the 40 man so desperately?
    Barnes
    Brasier
    Eovaldi
    hernandez
    Houck
    Pivetta
    ERod
    Sale
    Taylor
    Vazquez
    Bogaerts
    Dalbec
    Devers
    Beni
    JD
    Verdugo
    Mata
    Groome
    Rosario
    Wong
    Potts
    Seabold

    That's it really. Everyone else could be replaced rather easily. The rest is just preference in ranking the other guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Barnes
    Brasier
    Eovaldi
    hernandez
    Houck
    Pivetta
    ERod
    Sale
    Taylor
    Vazquez
    Bogaerts
    Dalbec
    Devers
    Beni
    JD
    Verdugo
    Mata
    Groome
    Rosario
    Wong
    Potts
    Seabold

    That's it really. Everyone else could be replaced rather easily. The rest is just preference in ranking the other guys.
    Pretty sad how almost half our roster is so expendable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Rosters are 26, now, but is it possible nobody would not select Groome and have to keep him on their 26 man roster all year?
    Teams do NOT have to keep Rule 5 picks on their roster all year. They do have other options for holding on to them

    If a team selected Groome, they could try to work out a trade or cash settlement with the Red Sox, for example. Or they could trade him to another team, who would assume Groome's Rule 5 status and have the same options of keeping him, trading for him, or working out a cash deal.

    These types of deals happen all the time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Teams do NOT have to keep Rule 5 picks on their roster all year. They do have other options for holding on to them

    If a team selected Groome, they could try to work out a trade or cash settlement with the Red Sox, for example. Or they could trade him to another team, who would assume Groome's Rule 5 status and have the same options of keeping him, trading for him, or working out a cash deal.

    These types of deals happen all the time...
    True. They often send them back, too.
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    New rankings...

    https://soxprospects.com/index.html

    (ranking fall 2019)
    1. Casas (same)
    2. Downs (n/a)
    3. Mata (2)
    4. Duran (6)
    5. Jimenez (4)
    6. Dalbec (5)
    7. Houck (7)
    8. Ward (10)
    9. Seabold (n/a)
    10. A Ramirez (12)
    11. Song (8)
    12. Groome (3)
    13. Yorke (n/a)
    14. Bonaci (n/a)
    15. Rosario (n/a)
    16. Lugo (13)
    17. Potts (n/a)
    18. Murphy (14)
    19. Jordan (n/a)
    20. Decker(15)

    21. Wong
    22. Bello
    23. Wallace
    24. Zeferjahn
    25. Arauz
    26. Bazardo
    27. J Rodriguez
    28. Feltman
    29. Wilson
    30. C-J Liu

    31. Grullon
    32. Aybar
    33. Drohan
    34. Castellanos
    35. Lopez
    36. Blalock
    37. Howlett
    38. Chatham
    39. Cannon
    40. Perales

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    My top 15 Sox Prospects (not that I know more than soxprospects or anyone else)
    1. Dalbec
    2. Casas
    3. Mata
    4. Downs
    5. Houck
    6. Jimenez
    7. Ward
    8. Seabold
    9. Rosario
    10. Duran
    11. Potts
    12. Song
    13. Groome
    14. Wong
    15. Wallace


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    I'm including below some of the more interesting updates from Fall Instructs.

    http://news.soxprospects.com/2020/11...ck-durbin.html

    - Even though he was drafted in 2019, right-hander Bradley Blalock is still only 19 years old and was one of the younger pitchers at instructs. He got off to a slow start, but as camp went on, his delivery and stuff improved. By the end of camp, the reports coming back on him were very encouraging, enough so that he entered our rankings for the first time in our recent update, all the way up at number 36. At his best, Blalock sat 92-94 mph and topped out at 95 mph with a good slider that complimented his fastball well. He also mixed in a curveball and changeup, giving him a four-pitch mix with remaining projection in his frame. He pitches with the type of swagger you like to see on the mound and looks like someone who will add velocity as he matures. Blalock has a lot of development remaining to project as a starter, but his fastball/slider combination gives him a reasonable floor as a potential relief option if his other pitches do not take a step forward.

    - After a strong debut in 2018, right-hander Durbin Feltman really struggled in Double-A Portland in 2019, considerably decreasing his stock. It seems Feltman put in the work at instructs, as he looked much closer to the pitcher we saw in 2018 than he did at any time in 2019. Feltman’s velocity came back, as he was up to 96 mph, mostly sitting 93-94 mph. His 85-87 mph slider flashed above-average potential, and even though it was not as crisp as it used to be, he still was able to use it to get swinging strikes. He also mixed in his low-80s curveball, which was a good change of pace to his slider. Feltman’s command and control profile is still a long-term concern, but the stuff he showed at Instructs definitely could play in a middle relief role at the major league level.

    - After a breakout 2019 professional debut with Lowell, left-hander Chris Murphy had a steady, but not spectacular Fall Instructional League, which fits the type of player he is. Murphy did not show any standout pitch, but showed three average to above-average offerings. His fastball sat in the low-90s, topping out at 96 mph, and he mixed in a curveball at 73-75 mph that flashed above-average, a changeup in the low-80s that flashed average, and a below-average slider in the low-80s. He seemed to be working on the slider early in camp, as he was not using his other secondary pitches much, but it lags well behind his other pitches. Scouts do have some questions on Murphy, particularly regarding his long-term command and control profile and whether or not he can consistently repeat his delivery, as it lacks coordination at times.

    - In 2019 with Lowell, outfielder Nick Decker showed significant power and the ability to hit right-handed pitchers, but he really struggled against left-handed pitching. That continued at Instructs, where he raked against right-handers, but continued to struggle against lefties. Even with his struggles against southpaws, scouts were encouraged by his power and offensive potential against righties, so much so that they think he could develop into a really good platoon player.

    - Shortstop Matthew Lugo had an up-and-down Fall Instructional League. Lugo, who received the second highest bonus of any player in the Red Sox 2019 draft class, seemed to have regressed some athletically and did not look as good at shortstop as he did in 2019. His arm is still strong, at least above-average, but the rest of his defensive skill set left question marks about whether he will be able to stick at shortstop long-term.
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    Good stuff, MVP. Thanks.
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    Kevin Thomas at the Press Herald ranked our prospects as follows:
    Mata
    Casas
    Dalbec
    Houck
    Downs (low)
    Duran
    Jimenez
    Seabold
    Groome
    Ward
    Chatham (high)
    Song
    Bazardo (high)
    Rosario
    Potts
    Wong
    Yorke
    Reyes
    Hart (high)
    Bello
    Aybar
    Shugart (high)
    Decker
    Shawaryn
    Feltman
    Ramirez (low)
    Bonaci
    Lugo (low)
    Ockimey
    Wilson
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