Terrible terrible choice not to go hard after Morton .Lose out on Springer I’m out !!

[notin]

Or that his WHIP went from 1.08 to 1.39? Or that his k rate was his lowest since 2015? Or that his LOB% was his worst since 2016? Or that his ERA- was 111? Or that his barrel% was his highest since it had ever been tracked?

But maybe it was because the Rays just went a little overboard with actually trying to win some regular season games? Maybe it had nothing to do with how Morton was actually pitching!

Snell didn't pitch 6 innings in any game either. However, Morton's declining metrics leave me to believe he won't be a 6 fWAR pitcher this year.

Or maybe it was becausde it was only 38 innings, and after almost no ST games...

[moonslav59]

And Springer hasn't even signed yet.

I don't believe Morton is worth 15M.

I thought $15 was high, too, for these times, but 1 year, low-risk deals are often higher.

[mvp 78]

Or maybe it was becausde it was only 38 innings, and after almost no ST games...

I'm leaning towards "he's not that good anymore."

There's no chance in hell he's getting 6 fWAR in 2021 either.

[5GoldGloves:OF,75]

I thought $15 was high, too, for these times, but 1 year, low-risk deals are often higher.

Maybe Mort's postseason resume got a few contenders to bid up -- compared to the rest of the $8-11 Mil signings so far. Or maybe the Braves, sensing they're very close to a title, just pulled a Dombro targeting their guys and getting it done while other clubs are still assessing the market (and vaccine progress, and how that might affect budgets).

But I agree that Old Uncle Charlie isn't worth almost twice as much as way-under 30 ERod -- if the latter's indeed 100%...

Assuming the costs of Bauer and Snell are non-starters (so punny), how high will Bloom go for, say, Odorizzi? Maybe a better question is how much of a paycut will Jake settle for? He ain't gettin no 17.8 this winter... unless it's a two-year deal.

[mvp 78]

Maybe Mort's postseason resume got a few contenders to bid up -- compared to the rest of the $8-11 Mil signings so far. Or maybe the Braves, sensing they're very close to a title, just pulled a Dombro targeting their guys and getting it done while other clubs are still assessing the market (and vaccine progress, and how that might affect budgets).

But I agree that Old Uncle Charlie isn't worth almost twice as much as way-under 30 ERod -- if the latter's indeed 100%...

Assuming the costs of Bauer and Snell are non-starters (so punny), how high will Bloom go for, say, Odorizzi? Maybe a better question is how much of a paycut will Jake settle for? He ain't gettin no 17.8 this winter... unless it's a two-year deal.

MLB Trade Rumors says 3/39. They also said 1/8 for Morton.

Who the fuck knows at this point?

[moonslav59]

My guess is there will be some decent, but maybe not great, players available near the end of the off season that will be great bargains.

Watch Bloom wait and swoop.

[Bellhorn04]

My guess is there will be some decent, but maybe not great, players available near the end of the off season that will be great bargains.

Watch Bloom wait and swoop.

Will any of them be pitchers though?

[moonslav59]

Will any of them be pitchers though?

Maybe not any headliners, but maybe a couple.

[notin]

Will any of them be pitchers though?

Yes.

but bear in mind "bargains" does not always mean "difference makers"...

[moonslav59]

Yes.

but bear in mind "bargains" does not always mean "difference makers"...

They may, however, later be used in deadline trades to net us more prospects.

[Bellhorn04]

Yes.

but bear in mind "bargains" does not always mean "difference makers"...

So pretty much like the "bargains" Chaim scooped up for 2020 then.

[mvp 78]

So pretty much like the "bargains" Chaim scooped up for 2020 then.

If so, mlb.tv won't seem like a bargain in 2021.

[moonslav59]

I think a better quality "bargains" will be available late this winter- better than Perez & Plawecki.

[Bellhorn04]

I think a better quality "bargains" will be available late this winter- better than Perez & Plawecki.

I'm not sure it's a good idea to count on it. Every team needs pitching.

[Thunder]

The OP in this thread is why we can't have nice things