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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    We're becoming a team full of old Dodger bench warmers
    Verdugo started until he had his back issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    Brock Holt’s career OBP is 25 points higher and he probably would cost $1-1.5 million for one season. I am not getting this move.
    He was horrible in 2020.
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    Holt: 91 OPS+
    Kiké: 98 OPS+

    Kiké is an upgrade over Brock Holt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    slow to develop market.

    The money is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    EHern led all NL second basemen last year in Range Factor, per b-ref. In his career he's played more games in the outfield than infield, with over half of those in centerfield. His versatility could keep Verdugo in right and Beni in left, while keeping center warm for Duran or Jiminez.

    At $7M per, it's the costliest signing of the Bloom Era -- but justifiable as a two-for-one investment in both a second baseman and centerfielder. If the Sox keep Beni, this may be the last position player acquisition (unless they add a really cheap outfield glove).

    Bloom should focus the rest of the payroll on pitching... where KeyKay is only 0-1 lifetime with an 81.00 ERA.
    I think Kike is a nice addition. Maybe he's a little costlier than we would have liked, but it's a very short term deal, which is key. Kike's versatility was surely a huge factor. And we needed some help defensively.

    I would still like to add a defensive CFer, but I am more comfortable with out OF situation now than I was before.

    A starting pitcher is coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmi View Post
    I think Kike is a nice addition. Maybe he's a little costlier than we would have liked, but it's a very short term deal, which is key.
    Looking forward to seeing how much the deferred money lowers the AAV.

    Which is a little sick, I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldtimer View Post
    And if the Sox trade away Beni, the payroll is flat and the payroll can either go to prospects with the remainder available to go toward a quality outfielder. Looks like a reasonable move although Sox fans tend to be hyper critical. Do they want top dollar stars no w? It won't happen.
    I think most fans want a big name signing. As I've posted before, if they are looking for Dombrowski type moves this year, they are going to be disappointed.

    Kike offers not only a solution to who plays 2B, but he also provides depth at other positions.

    My preference is still to not trade Beni. In fact, I would like to add another OFer to the mix. But having Kike would make it a little easier to trade him if the right deal comes along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Looking forward to seeing how much the deferred money lowers the AAV.

    Which is a little sick, I know.
    If some of the money is deferred, then even better.

    I don't get the criticism over this move. I really don't.

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    I am reading that former Dodger teammates, Verdugo and Kike, playing together will provide a good spark and a positive vibe to the team and for the fans.

    Another plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmi View Post
    If some of the money is deferred, then even better.

    I don't get the criticism over this move. I really don't.
    I think the only meaningful criticism is that it seems like an overpay in annual salary. But Profar got 3 @ $7 mill. Certain profiles get paid better some years. Supply and demand stuff, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Is he Buggs Bunny? He can play 2 positions at once?
    Nope, he's better; he's a platoon player... the Rays Ox love guys like him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    He was horrible in 2020.
    For a bench player, I'd rather have Holt. But of the two if I need a starting 2B, I would take Hernandez...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmi View Post
    If some of the money is deferred, then even better.

    I don't get the criticism over this move. I really don't.
    The criticism is that while Hernandez can play a lot of positions, he cannot pitch. And that is the Sox biggest need.


    I don't mind the move. Hernandez was not my top choice for 2B, but he was on my list. But I would like to the Sox sign a starting pitcher, which would bump Tanner Houck or (better yet) Nathan Eovaldi back into the bullpen, thus fixing two holes at once. And I prefer that SP not be named Garrett Richards, as he will in time just create another hole no matter how he is used....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Holt: 91 OPS+
    Kiké: 98 OPS+

    Kiké is an upgrade over Brock Holt.
    a $12 million upgrade? I don’t think so. I would have rather redeployed some of that money to other needs. It’s an overpay IMO.
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    I will be more disappointed if Semien goes for around the same price.
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