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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    If he flames out, it doesn't matter.

    Like I said, the more important piece is the PTBNL from the Mets.
    Agreed, but Cordero has so much talent, he was worth a shot, and may end up being a nice player.

    I'm also thinking that since we paid $2.8M of Beni's deal, a PTBNL from KC may be pretty promising, too.

    (Lee was a nice piece, though, and I wonder why we didn't like him enough to keep him.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Agreed, but Cordero has so much talent, he was worth a shot, and may end up being a nice player.

    I'm also thinking that since we paid $2.8M of Beni's deal, a PTBNL from KC may be pretty promising, too.

    (Lee was a nice piece, though, and I wonder why we didn't like him enough to keep him.)
    The Lee part of the equation is why I'm interested in the Mets PTBNL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    The Lee part of the equation is why I'm interested in the Mets PTBNL.
    I'm going by BTV, which may be totally useless, but I don't see anyone in the Mets system like Lee (similar value), but I realize Bloom may like a prospect with a value of 5 better than one with a 10. Maybe we get someone valued higher than Lee.

    BTV Mets prospect values: (I'm wonder why we didn't get 2 from NYM and 1 from KC.)

    NYM
    18.4 Crow-Armstrong OF (We won't get him.)
    15.8 Nientos 3B
    11.2 Lee OF
    5.9 Ginn P (see the big drop off?)
    5.4 Ramirez OF

    Had we gotten 2 PTBNL from the Mets, maybe Ginn & Ramirez?
    Maybe we don't get a prospect, but get Lucchesi SP 7.0 or Peterson SP 9.9, but I doubt it.

    KCR (Beni 4.6 +2.8M cash- Cordero 3.5 = 3.9)
    4.8 Melendez C
    4.1 Bowlan P
    3.2 Pratto 1B
    2.6 Hernandez P, Marsh P
    2.3 Fox SS
    2.0 Candelario SS
    1.8 Hicklen OF, Matias OF
    1.7 Hernandez P
    Plenty of others at 1.6 and below


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    Red Sox will stretch out Matt Andriese as a starter and use him as their "utility guy" on the pitching staff. Can pitch in any role.
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    Cora says Plawecki will arrive in Fort Myers tonight or tomorrow. Hope on Cordero is that he'll be in camp early next week.
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    Sawamura is still in Japan, but Cora says he's not behind yet because he's throwing there. Once he gets the visa cleared, some steps (flying, intake, quarantine) before he can come to camp. But too early to tell if he'll be good to go for 4/1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
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    Red Sox will stretch out Matt Andriese as a starter and use him as their "utility guy" on the pitching staff. Can pitch in any role.
    Interesting.

    You think Whitlock may get some starts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Interesting.

    You think Whitlock may get some starts?
    No. Too many guys ahead of him in the pecking order. (This is only in reference of him being a regular 5-6 inning starter, they may use him as a opener or something at some point)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    No. Too many guys ahead of him in the pecking order. (This is only in reference of him being a regular 5-6 inning starter, they may use him as a opener or something at some point)
    So, Whitlock will only be used in the pen?

    No chance of even being an "opener?"

    I agree, many are ahead of him, but will be on the 26 man roster, all year- unlike many others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    So, Whitlock will only be used in the pen?

    No chance of even being an "opener?"

    I agree, many are ahead of him, but will be on the 26 man roster, all year- unlike many others.
    There's a chance, but I don't believe an opener is a traditional starter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    There's a chance, but I don't believe an opener is a traditional starter.
    Yes, but might Andriese be more of an opener than a starter, if it comes to that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Yes, but might Andriese be more of an opener than a starter, if it comes to that?
    I think that if there was a substantial early season injury to a starter, that they'd keep him as a traditional starter and not an opener.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    No. Too many guys ahead of him in the pecking order. (This is only in reference of him being a regular 5-6 inning starter, they may use him as a opener or something at some point)
    Assuming he makes the final roster, he 100% will make some starts this year. There is no earthly chance your opening day starting 5 makes all their starts. Also, if he doesn't make the final roster, then he will be a Yankee farmhand again.
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    So, this might be the rotational depth chart?

    1. Sale (60 day IL)
    2. ERod
    3. Eovaldi
    4. Richards
    5. Pivetta
    6. Houck
    7. Andriese
    8. Whitlock
    9. Seabold
    10. Mata
    11. Gossett, Hart, Kent, Reyez, German, Winckowski, Ward

    Possible openers: Brewer, Weber, Payamps, Gonsalves

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    So, this might be the rotational depth chart?

    1. Sale (60 day IL)
    2. ERod
    3. Eovaldi
    4. Richards
    5. Pivetta
    6. Houck
    7. Andriese
    8. Whitlock
    9. Seabold
    10. Mata
    11. Gossett, Hart, Kent, Reyez, German, Winckowski, Ward

    Possible openers: Brewer, Weber, Payamps, Gonsalves

    Better depth than last year.
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