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View Poll Results: How many games will the Sox win in 2021?

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Thread: How many wins will the 2021 Red Sox get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    A large amount of people didn't vote for a president, either.
    I am aware. I was making a satirical remark on how some people take the civic duty more seriously than others. At the end of the day, voting is not mandatory, but there are many (including me, generally) that see voting as the morally proper thing to do even when the ticket is less than desirable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harmony View Post
    The Red Sox will fall just short of the 84 wins posted by the 2019 club that got 6.8 fWAR from Xander Bogaerts, 6.6 from Mookie Betts, 5.9 from Rafael Devers, 3.7 from Eduardo Rodriguez, 3.6 from Chris Sale, 3.5 from Christian Vazquez, 3.2 from J.D. Martinez, 2.4 from David Price, 2.0 from Andrew Benintendi and 1.4 from Jackie Bradley Jr.

    Or not.
    One could expect the same or better numbers from players in their primes or getting closer to prime.

    Bogey is 28.

    Devers was pre-prime in 2019.

    Vaz was having his best year in 2020- better than 2019.

    Verdugo should get better, but will not come close to Betts.

    A Renfroe-Beni platoon should be better than Beni's 2019 season.

    The 2019 season also saw this...

    32 GS Porcello 5.52 (I'm thinking Richards/Pivett/Perez can beat that)
    22 GS Price (4.28)
    8 GS Velazquez (5.43)
    7 GS Johnson (6.02)
    6 GS Casner (6.20)
    5 GS Chacin (7.36)
    11 GS by Weber, Lakins, Jo Smith, Taylor, Poyner & DHern)

    Sale started 25 games (4.40)
    ERod started 34 (3.81)
    Eovaldi started 12 (5.99)

    It's not hard to imagine this rotation can do better, depite how good these guys looked on paper before the 2019 season began.

    Or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I am aware. I was making a satirical remark on how some people take the civic duty more seriously than others. At the end of the day, voting is not mandatory, but there are many (including me, generally) that see voting as the morally proper thing to do even when the ticket is less than desirable.
    In Brazil, you are fined, if you do not vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    In Brazil, you are fined, if you do not vote.
    Take that north of the border to Venezuela and that's a borderline human rights violation, particularly if Chavez was still alive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    This isn't a Presidential Election. I don't have to vote if I don't like any of the options
    The Presidential Election isn't mandatory. This one is.
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I am aware. I was making a satirical remark on how some people take the civic duty more seriously than others. At the end of the day, voting is not mandatory, but there are many (including me, generally) that see voting as the morally proper thing to do even when the ticket is less than desirable.
    It's actually immoral to vote in the Presidential Election. It's exceedingly moral to vote on this poll though.
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    It's actually immoral to vote in the Presidential Election. It's exceedingly moral to vote on this poll though.
    And the ramifications are greater...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    And the ramifications are greater...
    When you vote in the Presidential Election, the lizard people actively switch your votes with their preferred candidate. On TalkSox, our mods are not lizard people. This poll is transparent!
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    When you vote in the Presidential Election, the lizard people actively switch your votes with their preferred candidate. On TalkSox, our mods are not lizard people. This poll is transparent!
    Well considering that we have no mods anymore, it would be pretty hard for them to be lizard people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    One could expect the same or better numbers from players in their primes or getting closer to prime.

    Bogey is 28.

    Devers was pre-prime in 2019.

    Vaz was having his best year in 2020- better than 2019.

    Verdugo should get better, but will not come close to Betts.

    A Renfroe-Beni platoon should be better than Beni's 2019 season.

    The 2019 season also saw this...

    32 GS Porcello 5.52 (I'm thinking Richards/Pivett/Perez can beat that)
    Rick Porcello posted 1.8 fWAR in 2019.

    ZiPS projects 2021 WAR of 1.2 for Garrett Richards, 1.2 for Nick Pivetta and 1.3 for Martin Perez:

    https://www.fangraphs.com/projection...=all&players=0

    Steamer projects 2021 WAR of 1.4 for Richards, 0.6 for Pivetta and 1.2 for Perez:

    https://www.fangraphs.com/projection...=all&players=0

    ZiPS projects Chris Sale (3.4) and Eduardo Rodriguez (3.0) as the only Red Sox pitchers with more than 1.2 WAR in 2021 ... and those lefthanders carry serious health risks.

  11. #41
    It is all about pitching and keeping their arms healthy. Based on the roster and past history, this team is at best a 500 ball club baring major upgrades to the rotation and bullpen. 82 wins plus or minus a couple is my bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    When you vote in the Presidential Election, the lizard people actively switch your votes with their preferred candidate. On TalkSox, our mods are not lizard people. This poll is transparent!
    Also this poll is straight up popular vote. There is no mucking about with made up things like the Electoral College, which is what they use to steal the elections.

    And this vote had no attack adds. I don't remember seeing any commercial in which 84-86 wins told me if I vote for 64-69 wins, I will lose my rights, my guns will be taken away, and the entire season will devolve into Socialism. Or was that nepotism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    This is the annual thread where we all guess how many wins the Sox will have in the regular season. Let's all assume that 162 games will be played for this.
    87 wins. Book it.

  14. #44
    93 wins I think Duran and Houck along with Kiki and hunter make a huge difference.JDM Benny have much better years and propel us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiharts Ghost View Post
    93 wins I think Duran and Houck along with Kiki and hunter make a huge difference.JDM Benny have much better years and propel us
    Quite the statement from somebody who keeps threatening to stop being a fan due to the lack of big moves by the front office.

    Seriously dude, either shit or get off the pot

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