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Thread: Beni traded to Royals

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    The three players to be named later are all mid level prospects, but hang’em Chaim appears to have used two of them as boom or bust prospects and the third guy as organizational pitching depth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Cook View Post
    The three players to be named later are all mid level prospects, but hang’em Chaim appears to have used two of them as boom or bust prospects and the third guy as organizational pitching depth!
    Cordero wasn't a prospect, and Winckowski looks like he may turn out to be more than just depth.

    Let's see what we get from KC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Cordero wasn't a prospect, and Winckowski looks like he may turn out to be more than just depth.

    Let's see what we get from KC.

    I was talking about Valdez, de la Rosa and grimball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Cook View Post
    I was talking about Valdez, de la Rosa and grimball.
    Sorry, I just saw the news. Yes, looks like adding some promising pitching depth to the farm.
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    BTV has the following values assigned to the players involved in the trade:

    3.3 Winckowski
    2.4 Valdez
    0.7 Gambrell
    0.3 Cordero
    0.1 de la Rosa

    8.6 K Lee (to Mets)

    10.8 Beni (includes cash paid off his contract)
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    Benintendi with a tater today!

    Fraunchy in the minors!

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    The Red Sox would definitely be a better team this year if they had Benintendi, but the Red Sox will hopefully win the deal long term especially if Winckowski can develop into a quality middle-of-the-rotation starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fan_since_Boggs View Post
    The Red Sox would definitely be a better team this year if they had Benintendi, but the Red Sox will hopefully win the deal long term especially if Winckowski can develop into a quality middle-of-the-rotation starter.
    It’s not “definite” we’d be better. The money saved afforded us Renfroe or Sawamura.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    It’s not “definite” we’d be better. The money saved afforded us Renfroe or Sawamura.
    Or they just hung onto the money, depending on how you look at it.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Or they just hung onto the money, depending on how you look at it.
    True, especially if we never spend the buffer between us and the tax line.

    One could alsoview the "savings" as allowing us to sign Marwin or Andriese, which doesn't seem all that great.
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    Anyway we're not missing much with Beni. fWAR 0.5 bWAR 1.0 currently on IL
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Anyway we're not missing much with Beni. fWAR 0.5 bWAR 1.0 currently on IL
    Fractured rib. He may be out for a while.
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    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fan_since_Boggs View Post
    The Red Sox would definitely be a better team this year if they had Benintendi, but the Red Sox will hopefully win the deal long term especially if Winckowski can develop into a quality middle-of-the-rotation starter.
    I do not like this trade for this year. However, this trade was made with the long term goals in mind, which I understand. I think the Sox will end up ahead in this deal.

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    Josh Winckowski with 0 walks, 9 strikeouts and 15 swing and misses yesterday.

    YTD: 45.2 IP, 3.35 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 4 HR, 44 K, 12 BB, 50% GB

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    Why did the Royals overpay for Beni?
    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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