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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Peavy for Montas, Iglesias and prospects
    This is one of the more underrated trades in recent memory IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    This is one of the more underrated trades in recent memory IMO
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    The problem with calling Boston a “winner” in those deals is it implies Toronto and Tampa were losers. Exactly what did either team lose out on considering both Eovaldi and Pearce hit free agency three months after being dealt and both teams still have a Major League ball player on the roster?
    I have no problem whatsoever calling Boston a winner in two trades for players who made huge contributions to winning the World Series. In exchange, the Red Sox gave up a back-up infielder and a relief pitcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    I have no problem whatsoever calling Boston a winner in two trades for players who made huge contributions to winning the World Series. In exchange, the Red Sox gave up a back-up infielder and a relief pitcher.
    Plus, just because we don't state the other team won, too, doesn't mean it's not so, or that we disagree with that perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Plus, just because we don't state the other team won, too, doesn't mean it's not so, or that we disagree with that perspective.
    Sometimes both teams win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Sometimes both teams win.
    Yess, and it's hard to judge, sometimes, because one team might be on a very restricted budget, so getting someone like Beeks at a fraction of the cost of Eovaldi and with many years of cheap team control in a big win, for them, but maybe wouldn't be for a team like the Sox.
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    Manny and minor leaguers (Brandon Moss and Craig Hansen) for Jason Bay


    Not an overly great win for either side, but I'm pleased with what we got out of Bay, especially since the careers of Moss and Hansen never really materialized
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Plus, just because we don't state the other team won, too, doesn't mean it's not so, or that we disagree with that perspective.
    Well, the concept of "winning" does go hand in hand with the concept of "losing", usially on the opposite side of the same contest/match/game whatever. Trades are more difficult, because it can work out for both sides but that doesn't necessarily equate to a tie...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Manny and minor leaguers (Brandon Moss and Craig Hansen) for Jason Bay


    Not an overly great win for either side, but I'm pleased with what we got out of Bay, especially since the careers of Moss and Hansen never really materialized
    Moss was an All Star...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Moss was an All Star...
    I feel the return we got was still worth it
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    Miller for E-Rod was a good trade for the Sox
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    Five and a half years after being traded , Logan Allen has an MLB career record of 3 - 6 , with an ERA of 5.64 . Yet we still have folks checking the box scores daily , hoping that he does well so they can post a sarcastic " Thanks , Dave ."
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Well, the concept of "winning" does go hand in hand with the concept of "losing", usially on the opposite side of the same contest/match/game whatever. Trades are more difficult, because it can work out for both sides but that doesn't necessarily equate to a tie...
    Never heard of a win-win situation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoxHop View Post
    Miller for E-Rod was a good trade for the Sox
    Damn good.

    Thanks Ben!
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    The other thing about looking at trades like the Kimbrel one, years later is the fact that it might not really be about comparing how the players did after a trade, but the fact that we might very well likely had traded Margot, Guerra, Asuaje and Allen for someone else or for 2 other guys.

    It's not that Kimbrel did poorly for us, but at the time of the trade, he was making near FA money. That's the part that rubbed me the wrong way. Why not just sign a closer?

    (Now, the closer pay went up sharply, immediately after the trade, so that part was not as bad as it first looked.)

    Margot took a long time to develop into a well-rounded player, but he'd be starting on this team, right now.
    If I gave you four cans of tomato soup in exchange for your Cadillac, you might say I overpaid because I could have gotten a half decent car for just three cans of soup . But in the end , I got the Cadillac and you got the tomato soup. I think I made out pretty well in the deal.
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