Barnes extended

[jacksonianmarch]

2 year extension with an $8 mil club option. $7.5 mil annually with a signing bonus. $18.5 mil guaranteed. It’s a steal.

[Kimmi]

2 year extension with an $8 mil club option. $7.5 mil annually with a signing bonus. $18.5 mil guaranteed. It’s a steal.

 

I wouldn't say it's a steal, but it's a deal I can live with and I'm happy that we will have Barnes with the team for the next 2 seasons.

 

Good deal for both sides.

[Bellhorn04]

Wow, was not expecting this.

 

Bloom is da man.

[notin]

Thus endeth the Barnes Trade Speculation….

[oldtimer]

Very reasonable deal that gives us a solid performer for the next 2 or 3 years.

[notin]

I wouldn't say it's a steal, but it's a deal I can live with and I'm happy that we will have Barnes with the team for the next 2 seasons.

 

Good deal for both sides.

 

It’s a steal if he continues his 2021 pace. Not so much if he reverts to his 2020 performance…

[Bellhorn04]

It’s a steal if he continues his 2021 pace. Not so much if he reverts to his 2020 performance…

 

You stop that LOL

[moonslav59]

I wouldn't say it's a steal, but it's a deal I can live with and I'm happy that we will have Barnes with the team for the next 2 seasons.

 

Good deal for both sides.

 

Kimmi, this is a highway robbery steal.

[moonslav59]

It’s a steal if he continues his 2021 pace. Not so much if he reverts to his 2020 performance…

 

If that's what you think, then we can trade him, this winter, and it remains a mega steal.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Thus endeth the Barnes Trade Speculation….

 

Wait... if someone thinks this is a steal, wouldn't some GM be willing to offer an even better package of prospects, now that Barnes is under (but not necessarily exhibiting) more control?

[moonslav59]

Wait... if someone thinks this is a steal, wouldn't some GM be willing to offer an even better package of prospects, now that Barnes is under (but not necessarily exhibiting) more control?

 

While true, he won't be traded.

 

He is now our closer of the future at a much lower cost that the free agent market would have cost us.

 

Now, which Barnes will we see going forward?

 

To me, even the old Barnes is worth more than $8M/yr.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

While true, he won't be traded.

 

He is now our closer of the future at a much lower cost that the free agent market would have cost us.

 

Now, which Barnes will we see going forward?

 

To me, even the old Barnes is worth more than $8M/yr.

 

It's also a better value for the Sox, instead of, for example, last winter's Brad Hand at $11 for one year. The uncertainty of the upcoming CBA may also be a factor in the numbers Barnes accepted.

[notin]

Wait... if someone thinks this is a steal, wouldn't some GM be willing to offer an even better package of prospects, now that Barnes is under (but not necessarily exhibiting) more control?

 

I so knew you were going to respond with something like this….

[moonslav59]

It's also a better value for the Sox, instead of, for example, last winter's Brad Hand at $11 for one year. The uncertainty of the upcoming CBA may also be a factor in the numbers Barnes accepted.

 

Unless Barnes implodes over the second half, I can't see any scenario where he would not have made way more than this deal.

 

On paper, this is a mega steal for the Sox.

 

While this season looks like an outlier, he has had several very good seasons.

 

His 15.1 K/9 rate is not his career high. He had a 14.3 K/9 rate from 2018-2020. His 3.28 FIP over that time is very nice. (It's 2.04, this year.)

 

His biggest improvement is with BB/9. It was 5.0 from 2018-2020 and is 2.4, now.

 

Can he sustain this?

 

We'll find out.

 

Just a few short months ago, very few wanted him to touch the 9th inning.

 

[notin]

Kimmi, this is a highway robbery steal.

 

Basically we got Barnes for Ottavino money. Where are all those “he’s gonna get $20 mill” people?

[Nick]

Basically we got Barnes for Ottavino money. Where are all those “he’s gonna get $20 mill” people?

 

Yeah, I heard $17M for 4 years....

[jacksonianmarch]

Barnes on the open market gets at least $15 mil AAV and likely gets a 3 yr deal. This is a total steal

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I so knew you were going to respond with something like this….

 

... as I await with trepidation and anticipation the updated BTV, now that he's controllable...

[moonslav59]

Barnes on the open market gets at least $15 mil AAV and likely gets a 3 yr deal. This is a total steal

 

Exactly.

 

Had he just repeated 2018 or 2019, this year, he'd still have made more than this deal.

[Hugh2]

Basically we got Barnes for Ottavino money. Where are all those “he’s gonna get $20 mill” people?

 

I’ll eat some crow, but I assumed Barnes would go to FA and get bid on. I still think he would have got much more than this in FA, especially if he continues to be as good as he has down the stretch.

 

This is a team friendly deal, and a steal for the Sox. I was not expecting this.

 

The Connecticut boy who grew up a Yankees fan chooses to sign a team friendly deal to stay with the Sox.

[harmony]

Kimmi, this is a highway robbery steal.

Last offseason Liam Hendriks (3 years, $54 million) was the only reliever to sign a multiple-year contract with a higher AAV than Matt Barnes' two-year, $18.5 million contract:

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021-mlb-free-agent-tracker/sort_column-position__sort_direction-1

 

Brad Hand and Trevor Rosenthal signed one-year contracts with higher AAVs.

 

The 31-year-old Barnes' closest comp might be righthander Blake Treinen, who was 32 years old in January when the Dodgers re-signed Treinen to a two-year, $17.5 million contract that covered Treinen's first years of free agency.

[moonslav59]

Last offseason Liam Hendriks (3 years, $54 million) was the only reliever to sign a multiple-year contract with a higher AAV than Matt Barnes' two-year, $18.5 million contract:

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021-mlb-free-agent-tracker/sort_column-position__sort_direction-1

 

Brad Hand and Trevor Rosenthal signed one-year contracts with higher AAVs.

 

The 31-year-old Barnes' closest comp might be righthander Blake Treinen, who was 32 years old in January when the Dodgers re-signed Treinen to a two-year, $17.5 million contract that covered Treinen's first years of free agency.

 

What's your point?

 

You honestly think this is not a steal?

 

Please don't say, "I just gave some numbers- interpret as you wish."

 

Give us an opinion.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Barnes is one of the greatest stories we have this year .I personally think Matt needs to be the setup guy ideally going forward but we are not near first place without Matty B .Bloom needs to get Matt some help though .

[dgalehouse]

Last offseason Liam Hendriks (3 years, $54 million) was the only reliever to sign a multiple-year contract with a higher AAV than Matt Barnes' two-year, $18.5 million contract:

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021-mlb-free-agent-tracker/sort_column-position__sort_direction-1

 

Brad Hand and Trevor Rosenthal signed one-year contracts with higher AAVs.

 

The 31-year-old Barnes' closest comp might be righthander Blake Treinen, who was 32 years old in January when the Dodgers re-signed Treinen to a two-year, $17.5 million contract that covered Treinen's first years of free agency.

The Cooler.

[harmony]

What's your point?

 

You honestly think this is not a steal?

 

Please don't say, "I just gave some numbers- interpret as you wish."

 

Give us an opinion.

The Red Sox paid full market price. Nothing wrong with that.

[Hugh2]

Hendricks might be a better comp because he went to FA. Barnes chose not too, to gauge what he’s get in FA, it would be more appropriate to analyze high end remover contracts in FA the last few years and not other extensions which can vary more widely.

 

Barnes gave a team friendly deal, and it makes sense. He still made himself a millionaire and he even stated he wanted to be close to home. He grew up in Bethel CT, and has family here. If his aspirations where to stay close to home that makes his market VERY small. Some guys are just family oriented and I respect that.

[moonslav59]

He was already a millionaire.

 

He also could have gotten more- much more.

 

This was not "market value."

[Bellhorn04]

Last offseason Liam Hendriks (3 years, $54 million) was the only reliever to sign a multiple-year contract with a higher AAV than Matt Barnes' two-year, $18.5 million contract:

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021-mlb-free-agent-tracker/sort_column-position__sort_direction-1

 

Brad Hand and Trevor Rosenthal signed one-year contracts with higher AAVs.

 

The 31-year-old Barnes' closest comp might be righthander Blake Treinen, who was 32 years old in January when the Dodgers re-signed Treinen to a two-year, $17.5 million contract that covered Treinen's first years of free agency.

 

What's wrong with Hendriks as a comp? Looks like a pretty solid one to me.

[Hugh2]

He was already a millionaire.

 

He also could have gotten more- much more.

 

This was not "market value."

 

Agreed.

[harmony]

What's wrong with Hendriks as a comp? Looks like a pretty solid one to me.

Liam Hendriks had posted 5.2 fWAR in 99 games over his two previous seasons while Matt Barnes has posted 5.2 fWAR in 362 games over his entire MLB career.

 

Some overvalue Barnes' small-sample 37-inning turnaround from his forgettable 2020 season.

Edited July 11, 2021 by harmony