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Thread: July 19: Red Sox (Pivetta) @ Blue Jays (Stripling)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPLENDIDSPLINTER View Post
    Watching the Giants/Dodgers game. Interesting that these two teams fighting it out in the NL West are each managed by former players of the SOX 2004 championship season, Kapler and Roberts.
    Btw, after the final out was made in the 2004 WS, there's that great picture of the backs of Damon and Kapler standing next to each other in the outfield and forming the year 1918. How Twilight Zone was that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    The Giants are the only team that can come close to the Sox in 21st Century rings.

    In some ways they are similar to us. Although they did lose one WS in 2002, they've won all ones they were in after 2003- same as us.

    They even kinda sucked in between like we did before and after 2013.

    They had a losing record, last year and the three before, something we have not done, this century. Their last ring was way back in 2014.

    I'd love to see a SF-BOS WS.
    Good observation, Moon. Personally, I would love to see ?-BOS WS. IOW, I don't care who they play. The SOX WS record since 2004 is 16-3. Bring 'em on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPLENDIDSPLINTER View Post
    Btw, after the final out was made in the 2004 WS, there's that great picture of the backs of Damon and Kapler standing next to each other in the outfield and forming the year 1918. How Twilight Zone was that?

    Another Twilight Zone moment was the batter on the Cardinals who made the final out in the 2004 WS was wearing #3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPLENDIDSPLINTER View Post
    Good observation, Moon. Personally, I would love to see ?-BOS WS. IOW, I don't care who they play. The SOX WS record since 2004 is 16-3. Bring 'em on.
    Getting there seems harder than winning it.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I do, too.

    It may take him a while, but I'm thinking he will return to form.

    Moving Perez or Richards to the pen should improve on Workman/Andriese/Rios.
    I don’t have the stats off the top of my head, but hasn’t Workman been really good his last few starts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerD View Post
    I don’t have the stats off the top of my head, but hasn’t Workman been really good his last few starts?
    Before his last two outings yes.

    8 IP
    7 H
    5 BB
    5 K
    0 ER
    .614 OPS Against
    7 IR- 1 IR Scored

    Last two? YUCKadocious!

    1 IP
    1 H
    5 BB (including 2 with the bases loaded)
    0 K
    1 ER
    .917 OPS Against
    4 IR- 4 IR Scored
    Last edited by moonslav59; 07-20-2021 at 08:21 AM.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    8 IP
    7 H
    5 BB
    5 K
    0 ER
    .614 OPS Against
    7 IR- 1 IR Scored
    Still, 5 walks in 8 IP is problematic and asking for trouble. Workman allows too many baserunners and he can't be counted on in any high leverage situation. He has no role at all in playoff baseball. He can be cut/released whenever his spot is needed, maybe when Sale is activated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fan_since_Boggs View Post
    Still, 5 walks in 8 IP is problematic and asking for trouble. Workman allows too many baserunners and he can't be counted on in any high leverage situation. He has no role at all in playoff baseball. He can be cut/released whenever his spot is needed, maybe when Sale is activated.
    Flip a 3 sided coin: Workman, Andriese, Rios.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Flip a 3 sided coin: Workman, Andriese, Rios.
    Andriese > Rios > Workman

    Workman is first to go IMO.
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    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPLENDIDSPLINTER View Post
    Another Twilight Zone moment was the batter on the Cardinals who made the final out in the 2004 WS was wearing #3.
    Another one was that all the members of the winning team had on a RS UNIFORM!!! That blew my mind!
    "Fans have become more entitled than anything. So they're starting to question our motives for the game, or how we approach the game. The ones that do question -- like who are you? Just shut up and watch the game tonight." --Kevin Durant on players' lack of effort in regular season games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Andriese > Rios > Workman

    Workman is first to go IMO.
    I'd go Rios> Workman> Andriese
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Flip a 3 sided coin: Workman, Andriese, Rios.
    The Three Little Pigs
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    The Three Little Pigs
    It does make for easy choice replacement decisions.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Getting there seems harder than winning it.
    Indeed. That's the beauty of the modern playoff system--it makes it possible for more teams to go all the way even though the really good teams are still the most likely WS winners.

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