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Thread: A Realistic View at 2022: Part I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    John Henry says Boston Red Sox are ‘ahead of schedule,’ believes team can win World Series: ‘Let’s find out’

    I wonder what he meant by 'ahead of schedule'.

    Does he mean we have younger players not yet ready to contribute in the majors?

    Does he mean we have young major leaguers that hasn't peaked?

    Does he mean we are adding more free agents in the future?

    If he knows he doesn't have the team he wants now, what is he waiting for to get there?
    I think he meant the brain trust was thinking the WS was a year or more away.

    That is likely why he limited the spending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I've done that several times.

    What's the second step in the 12?
    Stop posting?
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

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    The Red Sox will make the playoffs. Book it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    John Henry says Boston Red Sox are ‘ahead of schedule,’ believes team can win World Series: ‘Let’s find out’

    I wonder what he meant by 'ahead of schedule'.

    Does he mean we have younger players not yet ready to contribute in the majors?

    Does he mean we have young major leaguers that hasn't peaked?

    Does he mean we are adding more free agents in the future?

    If he knows he doesn't have the team he wants now, what is he waiting for to get there?
    They didn't expect to compete this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    They didn't expect to compete this year.
    Or didn't expect to make it as far as the LCS.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    I have to think, if they thought we had an excellent chance to win it all this year, Henry would have allowed Bloom to spend more.

    Who knows? Maybe it wouldn't have helped!

    Gotta like the character of this club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I have to think, if they thought we had an excellent chance to win it all this year, Henry would have allowed Bloom to spend more.

    Who knows? Maybe it wouldn't have helped!

    Gotta like the character of this club.
    Having a better bullpen would definitely have helped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Or didn't expect to make it as far as the LCS.
    I think they probably thought they were an 86 win team. They'd be good, but not get into the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I think they probably thought they were an 86 win team. They'd be good, but not get into the playoffs.
    That's my guess as well.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    If they decided spending heavily in a year in which Sale was a potential non-factor, I can understand that. Especially if it was only to put it off for one year…

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Having a better bullpen would definitely have helped.
    Helped us get farther than where we are now?

    Are we sure that Bloom's "extra" pen signings would have done well? Better than Robles, Davis, Brasier...

    Look at Ottavino & Andriese.

    Any other signings might have messed with the clubhouse gel, too.
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    We'll never know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    If they decided spending heavily in a year in which Sale was a potential non-factor, I can understand that. Especially if it was only to put it off for one year…
    It's my feeling the plan was always to spend big in 2022.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Having a better bullpen would definitely have helped.

    That’s a universal baseball solution that can be applied to every team ever…

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    That’s a universal baseball solution that can be applied to every team ever…
    The hard part is assembling one. Even if you spend big money on RP'ers, it is a still a crap shoot.

    Remember when the Rockies signed like 3 big FA RP'ers? I think they all flopped.

    It's largely hit or miss. Getting quantity works, sometimes, as you hit or miss it until you find 4-6 that work out, but it can lead to a lot of early losses as you work through your long list.

    We used 37 pitchers, this year, and the make-up of our pen changed radically as did the roles of many of those who remained from day one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Having a better bullpen would definitely have helped.
    I can't believe Bloom didn't listen to me and trade for Richard Rodriguez -- who didn't even make the Braves' postseason roster! Can we pick him up off the waiver wire now?

    So, obviously there were no sure relievers out there -- or in there, anywhere; even top guys like Hader and Hendriks this October. At least I didn't want Kimbrel back, and knew Bloom wouldn't go near that $17 mil contract (someone on MLB radio said the White Sox would be taking Kimbrel's option and trading him this winter... wonder which prospects Chicago will have to add to make that happen).

    Anyway, kudos to the posters who wanted the Red Sox to acquire Hansel Robles at the deadline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Helped us get farther than where we are now?

    Are we sure that Bloom's "extra" pen signings would have done well? Better than Robles, Davis, Brasier...

    Look at Ottavino & Andriese.

    Any other signings might have messed with the clubhouse gel, too.
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    We'll never know.
    You are 100% comfortable rolling out this bullpen?

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