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Thread: Why do the Yankees own the Twins like this?

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    Why do the Yankees own the Twins like this?

    It's one of the confounding mysteries of baseball.

    If there's no such thing as momentum, how come the Yankees have been beating the Twins' heads in without fail for the last two decades or so?

    I'll compile the numbers, but first I have to make sure my stomach is fully settled, because I don't want to get sick on my keyboard.
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    Honest to God, I almost posted this:

    Does the whole state of Minnesota run and hide their first borns when the Twins play the Yanks?
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    Here are the incredible, mind-boggling numbers for the 20 year period 2002-2021 up to last night's game:

    Regular season
    Yankees 91
    Twins 36

    Postseason
    Yankees 16
    Twins 2

    Total
    Yankees 107
    Twins 38

    That's a .738 winning pct. for the Yankees in 145 games, equivalent to 120 wins in a 162 game schedule.

    The Twins have not won a season series against the Yankees since 2001-they tied 3-3 in 2005 and 2006.

    And they have lost 5 postseason series, winning no more than 1 game in any of them, and 1 Wild Card game.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    What makes these numbers even more shocking is that the Twins have not been a bad team for most of these seasons.

    They’ve made the playoffs 9 times since 2002.

    I wonder what their record is in non Yankee games since then.
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    I think it's fair to say that in most of those seasons, the Yankees had a stronger team. Even in the seasons that the Twins made the postseason, the Yankees had a better record.
    That still doesn't fully explain the extreme lopsidedness of their records against each other, but that's some of it.

    Outside of that, it's one of those unanswerable mysteries of baseball.

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    Updated for today's 7-1 trouncing:

    108-38 .740
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Updated for today's 7-1 trouncing:

    108-38 .740
    What do you think the reason is that the Yankees own the Twins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmi View Post
    What do you think the reason is that the Yankees own the Twins?
    There has to be some sort of defeatism on the part of the Twins. They must feel like they're going to lose before they hit the field. It's the only thing I can figure.
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    It could be that the Twins are psyched out . I don't know. When there is no logical explanation for something it is always good to fall back on Yankee announcer John Sterling's quote , " That's baseball , Susyn."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    There has to be some sort of defeatism on the part of the Twins. They must feel like they're going to lose before they hit the field. It's the only thing I can figure.
    While I won't rule out that possibility, it's not like it's the same players on the Twins over the past 20 years. It's kind of hard to imagine that several different teams of players would have a defeatist attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgalehouse View Post
    It could be that the Twins are psyched out . I don't know. When there is no logical explanation for something it is always good to fall back on Yankee announcer John Sterling's quote , " That's baseball , Susyn."
    That's about as good an explanation as any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    There has to be some sort of defeatism on the part of the Twins. They must feel like they're going to lose before they hit the field. It's the only thing I can figure.
    So, it’s a repeatable non skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    There has to be some sort of defeatism on the part of the Twins. They must feel like they're going to lose before they hit the field. It's the only thing I can figure.
    This is the gist of the choke post and how outside and inside pressure builds (cue signs and jeers of "1918!") and can affect performance. Most here must admit the feasibility of this concept vs. say the opposite of the "cool, calm, clutch" guys...

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    NYC leads the nation in twin killings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkzwhitestrican View Post
    NYC leads the nation in twin killings.
    That's pretty good.
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