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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Taylor for $16M over Baez for $20?
    Baez only has 1.6 fWAR more than Taylor over the last 5 years. If you prorate 2020 out to a full season, Taylor has a higher fWAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Baez only has 1.6 fWAR more than Taylor over the last 5 years. If you prorate 2020 out to a full season, Taylor has a higher fWAR.
    Why is the 5 year sample the magic number? (Not saying it's not important, but so is last 3-4 years.)

    Last year
    3.6 Baez
    3.1 Taylor

    Last 2
    3.5 Baez
    4.5 Taylor

    Last 3
    13.2 Baez
    6.2 Taylor

    Last 4
    18.6 Baez
    9.3 Taylor
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Why is the 5 year sample the magic number? (Not saying it's not important, but so is last 3-4 years.)

    Last year
    3.6 Baez
    3.1 Taylor

    Last 2
    3.5 Baez
    4.5 Taylor

    Last 3
    13.2 Baez
    6.2 Taylor

    Last 4
    18.6 Baez
    9.3 Taylor
    Your math is off. Unless Baez had a 9.7 fWAR season that I don't see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Why is the 5 year sample the magic number? (Not saying it's not important, but so is last 3-4 years.)

    Last year
    3.6 Baez
    3.1 Taylor

    Last 2
    3.5 Baez
    4.5 Taylor

    Last 3
    13.2 Baez
    6.2 Taylor

    Last 4
    18.6 Baez
    9.3 Taylor
    For Baez, last 3 years is 7.9 fWAR and 13.2 for last 4 season…

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    For Baez, last 3 years is 7.9 fWAR and 13.2 for last 4 season…
    Can we get both ?

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    So who do we trade from our 40 man, assuming we pick up as many as 3 pitchers and an infielder and utility man? Candidates might be Potts, Aruaz, Rosario, Davis and a catcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiharts Ghost View Post
    Can we get both ?
    Both Baez from 3 years ago AND Baez from 2 years ago?

    Not unless we replace Bloom with HG Wells…

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    It is so hard to tell if the reports of our “interest” in certain free agents is real or the invention of overzealous agents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldtimer View Post
    So who do we trade from our 40 man, assuming we pick up as many as 3 pitchers and an infielder and utility man? Candidates might be Potts, Aruaz, Rosario, Davis and a catcher.
    More likely we DFA one or more from Potts, Rosario and Arauz. We may non-tender Plawecki.

    We still have 3 open slots on the roster and might claim a player or two off waivers before looking at free agents and trades.

    We may draft someone in Rule 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiharts Ghost View Post
    Can we get both ?
    Be serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Be serious.
    Wow .Honestly do you even have any sort of Tongue and Cheek humor ? Answer ? No!! .Bloom to me has low balled Heaney and Erod so far but I’m ok with that .Ray seems like a helluva departure for Bloom and I wonder if he can even land a big fish.Semien not even on Boston’s radar but he seems to like the idea of Baez and Matz .Bloom never bid on Verlander or Thor so maybe a younger healthier long term starter is on the Horizon and that’s great .Bloom in my opinion is a poor recruiter for top talent thus goes after second tier talent .I give Cora all the credit for last years run and I blame Bloom for his weak effort at upgrading starters at the break .I have never liked this guy but I’m hopeful he changes my mind as being a tiny fish in a sea of Sharks .Bloom cost the Redsox a World Series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiharts Ghost View Post
    Wow .Honestly do you even have any sort of Tongue and Cheek humor ? Answer ? No!! .Bloom to me has low balled Heaney and Erod so far but I’m ok with that .Ray seems like a helluva departure for Bloom and I wonder if he can even land a big fish.Semien not even on Boston’s radar but he seems to like the idea of Baez and Matz .Bloom never bid on Verlander or Thor so maybe a younger healthier long term starter is on the Horizon and that’s great .Bloom in my opinion is a poor recruiter for top talent thus goes after second tier talent .I give Cora all the credit for last years run and I blame Bloom for his weak effort at upgrading starters at the break .I have never liked this guy but I’m hopeful he changes my mind as being a tiny fish in a sea of Sharks .Bloom cost the Redsox a World Series.
    Honestly?

    You’ve said more absurd things and meant it, like in this very post claiming Bloom cost us the WS.

    There’s no way anyone could ever know that was a joke. Honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Honestly?

    You’ve said more absurd things and meant it, like in this very post claiming Bloom cost us the WS.

    There’s no way anyone could ever know that was a joke. Honestly.
    Put him on ignore, for the sake of your mental health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Put him on ignore, for the sake of your mental health.
    It's comic relief.


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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    It's comic relief.


    I got twinges of a headache just reading some of that post you quoted.
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