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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    That's Snagglepuss you're quoting.

    Also, not so sure he was straight...
    Not exactly helping your case by knowing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    That's Snagglepuss you're quoting.

    Also, not so sure he was straight...
    … not that it matters…
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    … not that it matters…

    I believe the expression is “not that there’s anything wrong with that.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    I believe the expression is “not that there’s anything wrong with that.”
    From Seinfeld, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    From Seinfeld, right?

    Correct…

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Correct…
    Back on topic .Word going around some other boards is Chaim May be using the prospects he traded for to go in a trade to Oakland ? Seems probable ?also Suzuki more likely with the JBJ acquisition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    That’s how capitalism works.
    But MLB isn't capitalism in it's strictest sense. The Federal Government is colluding with MBL by granting the anti-trust exemption. Amazon, WalMart, etc., companies that are operating under the capitalistic principles are subject to the laws governing interstate commerce where MLB is not.

    MLB’s antitrust exemption resulted from a 1922 Supreme Court ruling that stated, somewhat incredulously, that the business of Major League Baseball did not constitute “interstate commerce,” thus making it exempt from the Sherman Act, which prevents businesses from conspiring with one another in an effort to thwart competition.
    This anti-trust exemption has given teams the right to operate as a defacto monopoly even though there are several teams operating in several states.

    IMO this is a pretty good read on MLB's anti-trust exemption, the history of it, and how it affects baseball.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...me/7211552002/
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    Quote Originally Posted by S5Dewey View Post
    But MLB isn't capitalism in it's strictest sense. The Federal Government is colluding with MBL by granting the anti-trust exemption. Amazon, WalMart, etc., companies that are operating under the capitalistic principles are subject to the laws governing interstate commerce where MLB is not.

    MLB’s antitrust exemption resulted from a 1922 Supreme Court ruling that stated, somewhat incredulously, that the business of Major League Baseball did not constitute “interstate commerce,” thus making it exempt from the Sherman Act, which prevents businesses from conspiring with one another in an effort to thwart competition.
    This anti-trust exemption has given teams the right to operate as a defacto monopoly even though there are several teams operating in several states.

    IMO this is a pretty good read on MLB's anti-trust exemption, the history of it, and how it affects baseball.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...me/7211552002/

    There absolutely is something to anti-trust exemption negating the capitalistic aspect of it (although it’s not hard to argue that anti-trust exemption is just another economic feature to capitalize on.)

    But bare bones capitalism involves employee compensation through pre-determined wages in exchange for producing goods and/or services. In that respect, MLB does fit the bill.

    But your point is valid…

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    There absolutely is something to anti-trust exemption negating the capitalistic aspect of it (although it’s not hard to argue that anti-trust exemption is just another economic feature to capitalize on.)

    But bare bones capitalism involves employee compensation through pre-determined wages in exchange for producing goods and/or services. In that respect, MLB does fit the bill.

    But your point is valid…
    In bare bones capitalism prospective employers and prospective employees are free to negotiate with whomever they wish for that exchange of wages and services.

    In that respect, MLB does not fit the bill.

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    The MLB payroll and payroll tax systems are unique, methinks. Are there any other industries in which companies whose payroll exceeds a certain level gets penalized for it? And that's just one of the quirks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harmony View Post
    In bare bones capitalism prospective employers and prospective employees are free to negotiate with whomever they wish for that exchange of wages and services.

    In that respect, MLB does not fit the bill.
    I had absolutely no idea any player drafted a Major League team was not allowed to pursue other opportunities for employment…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    The MLB payroll and payroll tax systems are unique, methinks. Are there any other industries in which companies whose payroll exceeds a certain level gets penalized for it? And that's just one of the quirks.
    Well, the stockholders and CEOs get penalized because they have to share their wealth with (you know!) those 'worker'-types. Ugh. It's really sad that board-members have to dirty their hands by associating with such rabble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    I had absolutely no idea any player drafted a Major League team was not allowed to pursue other opportunities for employment…
    The analogy would be the person with a specialized skill -- let's say a physician leaving residency* -- being limited to a single employer in health care. Sure, the physician instead could choose to work as a Lyft driver.

    That's not bare bones capitalism.

    * although medical school students face similar restrictions on Match Day when residency assignments are announced
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    Quote Originally Posted by harmony View Post
    The analogy would be the person with a specialized skill -- let's say a physician leaving residency* -- being limited to a single employer in health care. Sure, the physician instead could choose to work as a Lyft driver.

    That's not bare bones capitalism.

    * although medical school students face similar restrictions on Match Day when residency assignments are announced
    It also helps you analogy if you pretend

    1) MLB is 30 different companies and not one company
    2) there are no other professional leagues
    3) and they cannot negotiate their pay, which many somehow still do anyway…

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    Quote Originally Posted by harmony View Post
    The analogy would be the person with a specialized skill -- let's say a physician leaving residency* -- being limited to a single employer in health care. Sure, the physician instead could choose to work as a Lyft driver.

    That's not bare bones capitalism.

    * although medical school students face similar restrictions on Match Day when residency assignments are announced
    One could argue that the hypothetical player notin is talking about is free to play in any other professional baseball league not controlled by MLB.
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