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    Schilling & HOF

    Tomase had a very well written & level-response article today.

    https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red...curt-schilling

    My opinion...his accomplishments ON THE FIELD are what matter. His politics are def not everyones cup of tea, but we still have Kirby Puckett (and others) in there & based on what came out afterwards he was a real POS.

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    Nope, and nothing to do with politics.

    Just because a couple worse pitchers snuck in, doesn't mean everyone should.
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    100% Schilling belongs in the hall. Has the regular season chops to be legitimately in the conversation and then has the postseason chops to be a lock. Best postseason starting pitcher ever. He belongs in the hall

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    Schill
    Roger
    Bonds
    Manny
    Rolen
    Wagner
    Andruw Jones

    all deserve to be in.
    Must have been the wind.

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    Schilling isn't even a 'borderline' Hall of Famer. He's a slam-dunk Hall of Famer. His 79.8 fWAR is 20th all-time, and then you have his unbelievable postseason record.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    There's a really good chance that nobody gets in the HOF this year. That place is becoming more and more a parody of itself.
    Must have been the wind.

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    Let him in for God's sake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnie Sadler was short View Post
    Tomase had a very well written & level-response article today.

    https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red...curt-schilling

    My opinion...his accomplishments ON THE FIELD are what matter. His politics are def not everyones cup of tea, but we still have Kirby Puckett (and others) in there & based on what came out afterwards he was a real POS.
    It might be worth noting that the baseball Hall of Fame is by rule supposed to consider "off the field" criteria when making selections. Primarily, this is to prevent law breakers and such from getting in and not for politics. But they do consider that material to be relevant.

    In contrast, the football Hall of Fame does NOT allow for off the field criteria to be considered, and only takes into account straight up football. So this is why OJ Simpson is a Hall of Famer and Pete Rose isn't.

    In the case of Schilling, he is outspoken and controversial. But keeping him out of the Hall of Fame on that criteria seems like an extreme interpretation (and probably flat out abuse) of the rules...

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    In contrast, the football Hall of Fame does NOT allow for off the field criteria to be considered, and only takes into account straight up football. So this is why OJ Simpson is a Hall of Famer and Pete Rose isn't.
    Simpson was inducted before the murders, of course.

    Has anyone ever been tossed out of a sports HOF after being inducted?
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Simpson was inducted before the murders, of course.

    Has anyone ever been tossed out of a sports HOF after being inducted?
    I don't know. But if you don't get thrown out for multiple murders, then I am not sure what it would take...

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    My ballot would be:
    Abreu
    Bonds
    Clemens
    Helton
    Jones
    Ramirez
    Rolen
    Schilling
    Sosa
    Wagner
    Must have been the wind.

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    Schilling has a big mouth, but he's not a felon. He didn't even break any MLB rules (as far as we know). But he broke a curse, and was the leader -- setting the tone off the field and as an example on it -- of the team that finally did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    I don't know. But if you don't get thrown out for multiple murders, then I am not sure what it would take...
    Maybe if he was convicted of the murders that would have done the trick.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    Schilling has a big mouth, but he's not a felon. He didn't even break any MLB rules (as far as we know). But he broke a curse, and was the leader -- setting the tone off the field and as an example on it -- of the team that finally did it.
    Schilling's regular season numbers may appear a little light by old school standards, but it's long past time that old school numbers are a determining factor.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Schilling's regular season numbers may appear a little light by old school standards, but it's long past time that old school numbers are a determining factor.
    Especially nowadays, with obsolete victory qualifications of five-inning minimums for starting pitchers... because, as we know, some "starters" only throw one inning by design, while "workhorses" aren't even allowed to pitch more than two times through the batting orders (analytics can sometimes be a compound word).

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