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    Sox sign James Paxton

    1 year $10 million with club option for 2nd year per Jeff Passan

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    He looked really bad the time last time he pitched and is coming off Tommy John surgery and is now 33… I guess we’ll see but not too excited about the move

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonbay44 View Post
    He looked really bad the time last time he pitched and is coming off Tommy John surgery and is now 33… I guess we’ll see but not too excited about the move

    He’s also out until July/August.

    While he did check a few boxes, he’s a stretch drive addition and maybe a piece for 2023…

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    Wtf, 10 Mil for a guy who can't even pitch until potentially August. Great Value there Bloom.

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    I'm fine with it. Still trust what Bloom is doing.
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    Big Maple got cut down a couple years ago and is now a table somewhere. His body is destroyed, but Bloom signed him. So I expect him to be lights out for you down the stretch and head your rotation in 23
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    Not a bad move. He's a high injury risk but could be a legit starter.

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    I read the second year option (plus maybe bonuses) could bring the cost up to $35M/2- really 1.3 to 1.5 seasons.

    I hope Bloom knows what he's doing, but I have serious doubts on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I read the second year option (plus maybe bonuses) could bring the cost up to $35M/2- really 1.3 to 1.5 seasons.

    I hope Bloom knows what he's doing, but I have serious doubts on this one.
    The way I read it, the option covers 2023 and 2024, so 2.3 to 2.5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    The way I read it, the option covers 2023 and 2024, so 2.3 to 2.5.
    Ahh. I knew that sounded fishy.

    So it might end up at $35M/3, assuming e take the options.

    That makes more sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I read the second year option (plus maybe bonuses) could bring the cost up to $35M/2- really 1.3 to 1.5 seasons.

    I hope Bloom knows what he's doing, but I have serious doubts on this one.
    He always knows what he's doing, which is what he was hired for. Dinosaurs like me always want the best players available to join my team, but young front office guys are looking for the better values. And now that starting pitchers barely work half the innings of games these days, it can make sense to spend half as much on them.

    How many pennants have the Yankees won with Cole? How did it work out for the '20 champs after they signed the Cy Young winner last year? Why not sign four mediocre pitchers with careers half-full instead of one old Scherzer who could break down at any minute?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Ahh. I knew that sounded fishy.

    So it might end up at $35M/3, assuming e take the options.

    That makes more sense.
    I don’t know why it took you so long to figure this out, but my read on this is that you might not get anything out of him next year at all, but if he gets healthy, and gives you 2 years of decent pitching after that it pretty much comes down to $35M for 2 years of pitching. Lots of ifs in there, but I would have rather had E Rod. Not to mention your also spending $8M more on Whack a.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsoxrules View Post
    Wtf, 10 Mil for a guy who can't even pitch until potentially August. Great Value there Bloom.
    The option years better be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    He always knows what he's doing, which is what he was hired for. Dinosaurs like me always want the best players available to join my team, but young front office guys are looking for the better values. And now that starting pitchers barely work half the innings of games these days, it can make sense to spend half as much on them.

    How many pennants have the Yankees won with Cole? How did it work out for the '20 champs after they signed the Cy Young winner last year? Why not sign four mediocre pitchers with careers half-full instead of one old Scherzer who could break down at any minute?
    The Nats won with Scherzer.
    We won with price in 2018.
    The Astros won with Verlander in 2017.

    The model for winning can take many shapes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    The option years better be good.
    This move suggests we are looking more towards 2023 and 2024 than 2022, although Paxton could give us a boost in '22 like Sale did, this year.
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